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Jim Brown-10
Here's a nice discount on excellent LiFePO4 batteries. Their prices are
already very good, and 15% discount makes it even better. They sell
batteries and chargers in all sizes and Ah ratings. I bought the
BLF-1220W last summer for a friend to use on a back-packing trip to a
rare 6M grid.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

MarcV
BioennoPower LiFePO4 batteries solved my power supply birdies problem.  I now run the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 and the K3/P3/VGA monitor each from a 40 Ah battery.  They came with chargers so I habitually recharge whenever I QRT.  

It's so nice to be free of AC mains restrictions and free from linear supply inefficiency as well as switching ps noise that I've purchased their Pelican model 1200 watt hour model to act as backup to the 40s and to handle my field day power.  

That big power pack has a builtin inverter and solar charge controller as well as USB outlets to recharge/power my portable speakers and the MacBook Air.  It seemed expensive at first but then I took another look at the investment in Elecraft gear and decided power for them isn't THAT expensive.
--
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> On Dec 21, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Here's a nice discount on excellent LiFePO4 batteries. Their prices are already very good, and 15% discount makes it even better. They sell batteries and chargers in all sizes and Ah ratings. I bought the BLF-1220W last summer for a friend to use on a back-packing trip to a rare 6M grid.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

Juliean Galak
Can one keep the battery on the charger and run the radio off the battery
simultaneously?

I wonder how long I can run a K3s/100 off one of these batteries...

Juliean
KD2JPF

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> BioennoPower LiFePO4 batteries solved my power supply birdies problem.  I
> now run the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 and the K3/P3/VGA monitor each from a 40 Ah
> battery.  They came with chargers so I habitually recharge whenever I QRT.
>
> It's so nice to be free of AC mains restrictions and free from linear
> supply inefficiency as well as switching ps noise that I've purchased their
> Pelican model 1200 watt hour model to act as backup to the 40s and to
> handle my field day power.
>
> That big power pack has a builtin inverter and solar charge controller as
> well as USB outlets to recharge/power my portable speakers and the MacBook
> Air.  It seemed expensive at first but then I took another look at the
> investment in Elecraft gear and decided power for them isn't THAT expensive.
> --
> Marc  W8SDG
>
> > On Dec 21, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a nice discount on excellent LiFePO4 batteries. Their prices are
> already very good, and 15% discount makes it even better. They sell
> batteries and chargers in all sizes and Ah ratings. I bought the BLF-1220W
> last summer for a friend to use on a back-packing trip to a rare 6M grid.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject:    Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!
> > Date:    Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:25:27 +0000 (UTC)
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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

Jim Sheldon
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Unfortunately, my experience with Bioenno's chargers is that they are EXTREMELY RFI noisy.  In the same house with my KX3 the  noise was over S9!

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 21, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Juliean Galak <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Can one keep the battery on the charger and run the radio off the battery
> simultaneously?
>
> I wonder how long I can run a K3s/100 off one of these batteries...
>
> Juliean
> KD2JPF
>
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> BioennoPower LiFePO4 batteries solved my power supply birdies problem.  I
>> now run the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 and the K3/P3/VGA monitor each from a 40 Ah
>> battery.  They came with chargers so I habitually recharge whenever I QRT.
>>
>> It's so nice to be free of AC mains restrictions and free from linear
>> supply inefficiency as well as switching ps noise that I've purchased their
>> Pelican model 1200 watt hour model to act as backup to the 40s and to
>> handle my field day power.
>>
>> That big power pack has a builtin inverter and solar charge controller as
>> well as USB outlets to recharge/power my portable speakers and the MacBook
>> Air.  It seemed expensive at first but then I took another look at the
>> investment in Elecraft gear and decided power for them isn't THAT expensive.
>> --
>> Marc  W8SDG
>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a nice discount on excellent LiFePO4 batteries. Their prices are
>> already very good, and 15% discount makes it even better. They sell
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>>>
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
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> Can one keep the battery on the charger and run the radio off the battery
> simultaneously?
>
> I wonder how long I can run a K3s/100 off one of these batteries...
>
> Juliean
> KD2JPF
>
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> BioennoPower LiFePO4 batteries solved my power supply birdies problem.  I
>> now run the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 and the K3/P3/VGA monitor each from a 40 Ah
>> battery.  They came with chargers so I habitually recharge whenever I QRT.
>>
>> It's so nice to be free of AC mains restrictions and free from linear
>> supply inefficiency as well as switching ps noise that I've purchased their
>> Pelican model 1200 watt hour model to act as backup to the 40s and to
>> handle my field day power.
>>
>> That big power pack has a builtin inverter and solar charge controller as
>> well as USB outlets to recharge/power my portable speakers and the MacBook
>> Air.  It seemed expensive at first but then I took another look at the
>> investment in Elecraft gear and decided power for them isn't THAT expensive.
>> --
>> Marc  W8SDG
>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a nice discount on excellent LiFePO4 batteries. Their prices are
>> already very good, and 15% discount makes it even better. They sell
>> batteries and chargers in all sizes and Ah ratings. I bought the BLF-1220W
>> last summer for a friend to use on a back-packing trip to a rare 6M grid.
>>>
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

MarcV
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Charger voltage as it finishes the internal balance cycle rises to 14.6 volts.  The K3 and KX3 seem happy then.

40 amp hours at 12-13 volts should last 4 hours key down.  I don't usually last that long.  But the charger QRN is about S2 so you could conduct tag chew QSOs while recharging.  

My approach is to have a backup ready.  YMMV
--
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> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Juliean Galak <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Can one keep the battery on the charger and run the radio off the battery
> simultaneously?
>
> I wonder how long I can run a K3s/100 off one of these batteries...
>
> Juliean
> KD2JPF
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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

MarcV
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Which one?  I didn't like the EMI from the 10 amp model but could live with it if absolutely necessary.

I've been talking to them about the problem hams have with noise and we might convince them to sell quieter LiFePO4 chargers.
--
Marc.  SDG

> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, my experience with Bioenno's chargers is that they are EXTREMELY RFI noisy.  In the same house with my KX3 the  noise was over S9!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>>
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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

Jim Sheldon
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It is their BLF-1203T 12 volt, 3 Ah battery.

Jim

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> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Which one?  I didn't like the EMI from the 10 amp model but could live with it if absolutely necessary.
>
> I've been talking to them about the problem hams have with noise and we might convince them to sell quieter LiFePO4 chargers.
> --
> Marc.  SDG
>
>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, my experience with Bioenno's chargers is that they are EXTREMELY RFI noisy.  In the same house with my KX3 the  noise was over S9!
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>
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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

James Bennett
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Has anyone experiencing these RFI problems tried passing the power cable through a large mix 31 donut to see if the noise is eliminated? Worth a shot…

Jim / W6JHB


> On   Monday, Dec 21, 2015, at  Monday, 1:00 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Which one?  I didn't like the EMI from the 10 amp model but could live with it if absolutely necessary.
>
> I've been talking to them about the problem hams have with noise and we might convince them to sell quieter LiFePO4 chargers.
> --
> Marc.  SDG
>
>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, my experience with Bioenno's chargers is that they are EXTREMELY RFI noisy.  In the same house with my KX3 the  noise was over S9!
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>
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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

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Oh, yeah.  That's the first one I bought from them at the summer sale, and I did complain right away.   Those are ideal for powering the KX3 and I carry one in the Pelican with my bare KX3.  The USB port is used to power a plug-in LED lamp.

I do wish more people making those power supplies could read English.  I'd send them a copy of Parts 15 and 17 to read.

It's going to take a concerted effort for all 170,000 of us U.S. hams to convince these people.  

I even had to hand a cheap transistor radio to a rep from our electrical service company to he could listen to the LED power supply he planned to install.  He was surprised.  I was appalled.
--
Marc  SDG

> On Dec 21, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It is their BLF-1203T 12 volt, 3 Ah battery.
>
> Jim
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Which one?  I didn't like the EMI from the 10 amp model but could live with it if absolutely necessary.
>>
>> I've been talking to them about the problem hams have with noise and we might convince them to sell quieter LiFePO4 chargers.
>> --
>> Marc.  SDG
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, my experience with Bioenno's chargers is that they are EXTREMELY RFI noisy.  In the same house with my KX3 the  noise was over S9!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>>
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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

WB4SON
My radio club, Newport County Radio Club (W1SYE), has been using a Bioenno
Power 30 AH LiFePO4 battery for a few years on many of our Island on the
Air activations as well as Jamboree on the Air.  We were running a 100 Watt
HF radio from early morning to sunset at 100 watts output.  In all our
activations, we have not come even close to depleting that battery, less
than 20 AH were put back into the battery on charge. Those IOTA events
generate large pileups and hundreds of QSOs over a period of about 8 hours.

I've also run a K3 on Field Day, at our GOTA station, for 16 hours out of
the 24 hour period using a LiFePO4 battery.  During that time hundreds of
QSOs were made at 100 watts. At the time I was using a 60 AH battery, and
the current consumed was 34 AH.  It certainly helped that the K3 has low RX
current as well.  GOTA is not as demanding as a full blown CW run station,
but it is certainly more than casual operation.

Our full blown Field Day run station is run off a 9 AH LiFePO4 battery for
a full hour to obtain the Alternative Power Bonus -- In that time, hundreds
of QSOs are made, and the battery is more than up to the task.

Expect that a hard core contester using a K3 in full run mode will consume
about 8 Amps an hour (8AH).  A search and pounce station will consume about
2 Amps per hour, and casual operation will consume about 1 Amp. All at full
output.

73, Bob, WB4SON

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Oh, yeah.  That's the first one I bought from them at the summer sale, and
> I did complain right away.   Those are ideal for powering the KX3 and I
> carry one in the Pelican with my bare KX3.  The USB port is used to power a
> plug-in LED lamp.
>
> I do wish more people making those power supplies could read English.  I'd
> send them a copy of Parts 15 and 17 to read.
>
> It's going to take a concerted effort for all 170,000 of us U.S. hams to
> convince these people.
>
> I even had to hand a cheap transistor radio to a rep from our electrical
> service company to he could listen to the LED power supply he planned to
> install.  He was surprised.  I was appalled.
> --
> Marc  SDG
>
> > On Dec 21, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > It is their BLF-1203T 12 volt, 3 Ah battery.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Which one?  I didn't like the EMI from the 10 amp model but could live
> with it if absolutely necessary.
> >>
> >> I've been talking to them about the problem hams have with noise and we
> might convince them to sell quieter LiFePO4 chargers.
> >> --
> >> Marc.  SDG
> >>
> >>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, my experience with Bioenno's chargers is that they are
> EXTREMELY RFI noisy.  In the same house with my KX3 the  noise was over S9!
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>>
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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

Wes (N7WS)
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My electric co-op is trying to be cooperative (no pun intended).  They even
hired these guys (highly recommended by ARRL) http://www.rfiservices.com/  to
teach them a workshop and they plan to have another.

Also on the site at http://www.rfiservices.com/fccwarning&citations.htm are some
interesting examples of the way the pre-Obama FCC handled power companies.


On 12/21/2015 2:20 PM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
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> I do wish more people making those power supplies could read English.  I'd send them a copy of Parts 15 and 17 to read.
>
> It's going to take a concerted effort for all 170,000 of us U.S. hams to convince these people.
>
> I even had to hand a cheap transistor radio to a rep from our electrical service company to he could listen to the LED power supply he planned to install.  He was surprised.  I was appalled.

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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

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I use three discarded 12v server back-up bateries which are discarded
from the server room after one year of service, but are generally
worth three to four years usage. Mine are connected to a  West
Mountain Super PWRgate PG40S between my Power supply and the 12 volt
equipment.  When the mains power goe's down there isn't a flicker in
my 12v equipment.

Works great



On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:37:11 -0500, you wrote:

>Can one keep the battery on the charger and run the radio off the battery
>simultaneously?
>
>I wonder how long I can run a K3s/100 off one of these batteries...
>
>Juliean
>KD2JPF
ARS N5GE

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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

Juliean Galak
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Well, you convinced me.  :)

30AH battery ordered.  Now I just need an antenna and a radio... :)

Juliean
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Bob <[hidden email]> wrote:

> My radio club, Newport County Radio Club (W1SYE), has been using a Bioenno
> Power 30 AH LiFePO4 battery for a few years on many of our Island on the
> Air activations as well as Jamboree on the Air.  We were running a 100 Watt
> HF radio from early morning to sunset at 100 watts output.  In all our
> activations, we have not come even close to depleting that battery, less
> than 20 AH were put back into the battery on charge. Those IOTA events
> generate large pileups and hundreds of QSOs over a period of about 8 hours.
>
> I've also run a K3 on Field Day, at our GOTA station, for 16 hours out of
> the 24 hour period using a LiFePO4 battery.  During that time hundreds of
> QSOs were made at 100 watts. At the time I was using a 60 AH battery, and
> the current consumed was 34 AH.  It certainly helped that the K3 has low RX
> current as well.  GOTA is not as demanding as a full blown CW run station,
> but it is certainly more than casual operation.
>
> Our full blown Field Day run station is run off a 9 AH LiFePO4 battery for
> a full hour to obtain the Alternative Power Bonus -- In that time, hundreds
> of QSOs are made, and the battery is more than up to the task.
>
> Expect that a hard core contester using a K3 in full run mode will consume
> about 8 Amps an hour (8AH).  A search and pounce station will consume about
> 2 Amps per hour, and casual operation will consume about 1 Amp. All at full
> output.
>
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Oh, yeah.  That's the first one I bought from them at the summer sale,
> and
> > I did complain right away.   Those are ideal for powering the KX3 and I
> > carry one in the Pelican with my bare KX3.  The USB port is used to
> power a
> > plug-in LED lamp.
> >
> > I do wish more people making those power supplies could read English.
> I'd
> > send them a copy of Parts 15 and 17 to read.
> >
> > It's going to take a concerted effort for all 170,000 of us U.S. hams to
> > convince these people.
> >
> > I even had to hand a cheap transistor radio to a rep from our electrical
> > service company to he could listen to the LED power supply he planned to
> > install.  He was surprised.  I was appalled.
> > --
> > Marc  SDG
> >
> > > On Dec 21, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > It is their BLF-1203T 12 volt, 3 Ah battery.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Which one?  I didn't like the EMI from the 10 amp model but could live
> > with it if absolutely necessary.
> > >>
> > >> I've been talking to them about the problem hams have with noise and
> we
> > might convince them to sell quieter LiFePO4 chargers.
> > >> --
> > >> Marc.  SDG
> > >>
> > >>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Unfortunately, my experience with Bioenno's chargers is that they are
> > EXTREMELY RFI noisy.  In the same house with my KX3 the  noise was over
> S9!
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPad
> > >>>
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Re: Fwd: Fw: It's almost Christmas. Have you gotten your 15% off yet!

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I’ve got a Bioenno Power BLF-1212WS (LiFEPo4) sitting here on my desk, being charged by their supplied 117v charger, model FY1502000 switching power supply. It makes zero hash or crud on my KX3, K3, or SoftRock Ensemble RXTX (40,30, 20 meter version). No ferrite donuts wound on my leads. What power supply are you using?


> On   Monday, Dec 21, 2015, at  Monday, 1:54 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yes.  Also, their charger has a common mode choke, ala computer cables on it.  Unknown mix, but it's next to useless.  I put a multi turn choke of 31 mix on the output of the charger.  No luck.  The radiation is mostly out of the case and coupled to the AC cord.  Chokes there didn't do much either.  I even made sure the outlet it was plugged into was on the opposite phase from the radio's DC supply.  Ran the KX3 on internal batteries while the LiFePo battery was being charged and the RFI was still over S7.  Totally unacceptable IMO.
>
> Jim
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:15 PM, James Bennett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone experiencing these RFI problems tried passing the power cable through a large mix 31 donut to see if the noise is eliminated? Worth a shot…
>>
>> Jim / W6JHB
>>
>>
>>> On   Monday, Dec 21, 2015, at  Monday, 1:00 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Which one?  I didn't like the EMI from the 10 amp model but could live with it if absolutely necessary.
>>>
>>> I've been talking to them about the problem hams have with noise and we might convince them to sell quieter LiFePO4 chargers.
>>> --
>>> Marc.  SDG
>>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, my experience with Bioenno's chargers is that they are EXTREMELY RFI noisy.  In the same house with my KX3 the  noise was over S9!
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
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