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K3 CW Text Decoding

wmbrian
I am unable to get the Text Decode function on my K3 to produce accurate results. I have employed the tweaks suggested in the K3 manual, but the text produced bears little resemblance to the code that was sent.

Ordinarily I would ascribe a problem like this to operator error - but I don’t think that this is the case.

Any suggestions and/or observations would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Brian, K8GRR

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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

John Simmons
Are you using the CWT function to tune the VFO to the correct frequency?

-de John NI0K

B Deuby wrote on 10/7/2019 7:11 PM:

> I am unable to get the Text Decode function on my K3 to produce accurate results. I have employed the tweaks suggested in the K3 manual, but the text produced bears little resemblance to the code that was sent.
>
> Ordinarily I would ascribe a problem like this to operator error - but I don’t think that this is the case.
>
> Any suggestions and/or observations would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian, K8GRR
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

Barry-2
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Brian,
     It does work. But it usually takes a pretty good signal. I have gone
over to CW Skimmer as it appears to be t he best thing on the street,
better than most all of the others. I can contest with it at a pretty
good clip. The setup is slightly involved, but once set up it really
works well and can control the radio.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 CW Text Decoding

>I am unable to get the Text Decode function on my K3 to produce accurate results. I have employed the tweaks suggested in the K3 manual, but the text produced bears little resemblance to the code that was sent.
>
>Ordinarily I would ascribe a problem like this to operator error - but I don’t think that this is the case.
>
>Any suggestions and/or observations would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brian, K8GRR
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

David Gilbert

CW Skimmer not only has a great decoder, it has the best waterfall
display I've seen.  On top of that, the waterfall runs right to left
like all narrowband waterfalls should so that you can read left to right
to visually decode a CW signal several seconds after the fact if you
miss a character when decoding by ear.  I have often used CW Skimmer in
a CW contest in narrowband audio mode with decoding turned off for this
purpose.  It works great and saves asking for repeats if you happened to
miss an element.

I once proposed here in this reflector that it would be nice if the K4
could have the option to do the same thing but all I heard back was
crickets.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 10/7/2019 5:46 PM, Barry wrote:

> Brian,
>     It does work. But it usually takes a pretty good signal. I have
> gone over to CW Skimmer as it appears to be t he best thing on the
> street, better than most all of the others. I can contest with it at a
> pretty good clip. The setup is slightly involved, but once set up it
> really works well and can control the radio.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM

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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

rich hurd WC3T
Just be sure you give it a fair shake after you install it. I installed it
and sort of played with it unseriously.  Then when I really started to dive
into it, I discovered the 30 day timer had expired.  And I didn’t get a
chance to justify to myself the expense.

I’m now building a laptop for ham-only use and will reinstall it and try
again.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 22:04 David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> CW Skimmer not only has a great decoder, it has the best waterfall
> display I've seen.  On top of that, the waterfall runs right to left
> like all narrowband waterfalls should so that you can read left to right
> to visually decode a CW signal several seconds after the fact if you
> miss a character when decoding by ear.  I have often used CW Skimmer in
> a CW contest in narrowband audio mode with decoding turned off for this
> purpose.  It works great and saves asking for repeats if you happened to
> miss an element.
>
> I once proposed here in this reflector that it would be nice if the K4
> could have the option to do the same thing but all I heard back was
> crickets.
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 10/7/2019 5:46 PM, Barry wrote:
> > Brian,
> >     It does work. But it usually takes a pretty good signal. I have
> > gone over to CW Skimmer as it appears to be t he best thing on the
> > street, better than most all of the others. I can contest with it at a
> > pretty good clip. The setup is slightly involved, but once set up it
> > really works well and can control the radio.
> >
> > 73,
> > Barry
> > K3NDM
>
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

David Gilbert

If you haven't played with CW Skimmer much, here's a couple of points of
interest.

1.  You can run multiple instances.  I fed the Line Out from my K3 into
the sound card of my computer, and had one instance of CW SKimmer
display a waterfall of the narrow band audio from the main receiver and
another instance of CW Skimmer display the narrow band audio from the
sub receiver.  You'd be amazed at how distinct the dits and dahs look
compared to just about every other waterfall application I've ever
seen.  You can shrink the vertical display height of both instances of
CW Skimmer to make them fit above your logging program on a decent sized
monitor.  Imagine being able to pick out the callsign of a station on
VFO B while you are focused on working somebody on VFO A ... even if he
gave his callsign several seconds before you looked at the VFO B waterfall.

2.  There is a command that will pause the CW Skimmer waterfall. It's a
toggle ... hit it once to pause and hit it again to restart. I don't
remember the command off the top of my head but I remember mapping it to
a key on the keyboard using the outstanding free application called
AutoHotKey.  I didn't have to use it very often, but any time I blew a
received report I'd just tap that key and it would let me visually
decode whatever I busted and correct it after the contact, and since the
display was paused I could do it when it was convenient.

3.  If you turn off the decode in CW Skimmer it is simply a waterfall
and qualifies for unassisted categories, but the visual display cuts you
a lot of slack for human decoding.  Just read the dots and dashes in
your mind as dits and dahs and you'd be surprised how quickly you learn
to decode visually ... except now you have a "do over" capability to
help you out, or alternatively have a brief record of whatever is
happening on one VFO while you are active on the other.   It's almost
like turning one operator into one and a half operators.

4.  You don't need ANY additional hardware to use CW Skimmer in audio mode.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 10/7/2019 7:26 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

> Just be sure you give it a fair shake after you install it. I
> installed it and sort of played with it unseriously.  Then when I
> really started to dive into it, I discovered the 30 day timer had
> expired.  And I didn’t get a chance to justify to myself the expense.
>
> I’m now building a laptop for ham-only use and will reinstall it and
> try again.
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 22:04 David Gilbert <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>
>     CW Skimmer not only has a great decoder, it has the best waterfall
>     display I've seen.  On top of that, the waterfall runs right to left
>     like all narrowband waterfalls should so that you can read left to
>     right
>     to visually decode a CW signal several seconds after the fact if you
>     miss a character when decoding by ear.  I have often used CW
>     Skimmer in
>     a CW contest in narrowband audio mode with decoding turned off for
>     this
>     purpose.  It works great and saves asking for repeats if you
>     happened to
>     miss an element.
>
>     I once proposed here in this reflector that it would be nice if
>     the K4
>     could have the option to do the same thing but all I heard back was
>     crickets.
>
>     73,
>     Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
>     On 10/7/2019 5:46 PM, Barry wrote:
>     > Brian,
>     >     It does work. But it usually takes a pretty good signal. I have
>     > gone over to CW Skimmer as it appears to be t he best thing on the
>     > street, better than most all of the others. I can contest with
>     it at a
>     > pretty good clip. The setup is slightly involved, but once set
>     up it
>     > really works well and can control the radio.
>     >
>     > 73,
>     > Barry
>     > K3NDM
>
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

stengrevics
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In my experience, it only works on a big signal, which is when you don’t need it.

John
WA1EAZ

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> On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:11 AM, B Deuby <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I am unable to get the Text Decode function on my K3 to produce accurate results. I have employed the tweaks suggested in the K3 manual, but the text produced bears little resemblance to the code that was sent.
>
> Ordinarily I would ascribe a problem like this to operator error - but I don’t think that this is the case.
>
> Any suggestions and/or observations would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian, K8GRR
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

Barry-2
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Dave,
     Your last comment is correct. However, CW Skimmer comes into its own
when you feed it IF I&Q data. You can see what is happening across the
band or a portion of it and still read the signal narrow band. You do
this by clicking on the signal you want to pursue and and listen in
narrow band. By clicking on the wanted signal, the radio is tuned to it.
This does require a little set up and setting offsets, but it is really
worth it. A little interesting point: in a little less than rigorous
testing, I found that that Skimmer seems to work a bit better using I&Q
data rather than just the receiver audio. But, that was not a rigorous
test and someone who is really interested can do the follow up.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

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Sent: 10/8/2019 12:23:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW Text Decoding

>
>If you haven't played with CW Skimmer much, here's a couple of points of interest.
>
>1.  You can run multiple instances.  I fed the Line Out from my K3 into the sound card of my computer, and had one instance of CW SKimmer display a waterfall of the narrow band audio from the main receiver and another instance of CW Skimmer display the narrow band audio from the sub receiver.  You'd be amazed at how distinct the dits and dahs look compared to just about every other waterfall application I've ever seen.  You can shrink the vertical display height of both instances of CW Skimmer to make them fit above your logging program on a decent sized monitor.  Imagine being able to pick out the callsign of a station on VFO B while you are focused on working somebody on VFO A ... even if he gave his callsign several seconds before you looked at the VFO B waterfall.
>
>2.  There is a command that will pause the CW Skimmer waterfall. It's a toggle ... hit it once to pause and hit it again to restart. I don't remember the command off the top of my head but I remember mapping it to a key on the keyboard using the outstanding free application called AutoHotKey.  I didn't have to use it very often, but any time I blew a received report I'd just tap that key and it would let me visually decode whatever I busted and correct it after the contact, and since the display was paused I could do it when it was convenient.
>
>3.  If you turn off the decode in CW Skimmer it is simply a waterfall and qualifies for unassisted categories, but the visual display cuts you a lot of slack for human decoding.  Just read the dots and dashes in your mind as dits and dahs and you'd be surprised how quickly you learn to decode visually ... except now you have a "do over" capability to help you out, or alternatively have a brief record of whatever is happening on one VFO while you are active on the other.   It's almost like turning one operator into one and a half operators.
>
>4.  You don't need ANY additional hardware to use CW Skimmer in audio mode.
>
>73,
>Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
>On 10/7/2019 7:26 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
>>Just be sure you give it a fair shake after you install it. I installed it and sort of played with it unseriously.  Then when I really started to dive into it, I discovered the 30 day timer had expired.  And I didn’t get a chance to justify to myself the expense.
>>
>>I’m now building a laptop for ham-only use and will reinstall it and try again.
>>
>>On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 22:04 David Gilbert <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     CW Skimmer not only has a great decoder, it has the best waterfall
>>     display I've seen.  On top of that, the waterfall runs right to left
>>     like all narrowband waterfalls should so that you can read left to
>>     right
>>     to visually decode a CW signal several seconds after the fact if you
>>     miss a character when decoding by ear.  I have often used CW
>>     Skimmer in
>>     a CW contest in narrowband audio mode with decoding turned off for
>>     this
>>     purpose.  It works great and saves asking for repeats if you
>>     happened to
>>     miss an element.
>>
>>     I once proposed here in this reflector that it would be nice if
>>     the K4
>>     could have the option to do the same thing but all I heard back was
>>     crickets.
>>
>>     73,
>>     Dave   AB7E
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 10/7/2019 5:46 PM, Barry wrote:
>>     > Brian,
>>     >     It does work. But it usually takes a pretty good signal. I have
>>     > gone over to CW Skimmer as it appears to be t he best thing on the
>>     > street, better than most all of the others. I can contest with
>>     it at a
>>     > pretty good clip. The setup is slightly involved, but once set
>>     up it
>>     > really works well and can control the radio.
>>     >
>>     > 73,
>>     > Barry
>>     > K3NDM
>>
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

Ignacy
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I feel that KX3 has a much better CW decoder than K3.
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Tox
I still have not found the magic to get my kx3 to reliably yield
anything but a stream of E and *. :(

Scott
AD6YT

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>
> I feel that KX3 has a much better CW decoder than K3.
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

John Simmons
Mine works pretty well. I use it during CW contests to help copy the
speed demons. Works well for me, so I know the system works. How about
an email to Elecraft support?

-de John NI0K

Tox wrote on 10/8/2019 6:26 PM:

> I still have not found the magic to get my kx3 to reliably yield
> anything but a stream of E and *. :(
>
> Scott
> AD6YT
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 12:17 PM Ignacy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I feel that KX3 has a much better CW decoder than K3.
>> Ignacy, NO9E
>>
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
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Scott:

The TEXT DEC level {Text Decode} is set too sensitive and/or the RF Gain
is too high.   I use #3 for the TEXT DEC sensitivity on most bands,
depending on noise.   And the RF Gain is reduced such that the CWT bar
only flashes on a clean signal.  Getting * and E's is an indication the
sensitivity is too high and/or the RF Gain is too high.   Also correct
tuning is necessary.  With CWT active you should see the flashing bar in
the center.  If to the left or right the tuning is not correct based on
the sidetone pitch you have selected.   I get tuning close and then use
the SPOT function to correctly zero beat the signal.   This is when CWT
is ON.

Copying DK9PY on 14.039 with 100% correct print this morning. He is
sending by keyboard which makes for good copy.  Many hand sent CW
signals are lacking in rhythm, timing and  spacing for 100% correct
copy.   However, you should be able to copy some portion of the messages.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 10/8/2019 6:26 PM, Tox wrote:

> I still have not found the magic to get my kx3 to reliably yield
> anything but a stream of E and *. :(
>
> Scott
> AD6YT
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 12:17 PM Ignacy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I feel that KX3 has a much better CW decoder than K3.
>> Ignacy, NO9E
>>
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

Tox
Thanks Bob! I'll poke at those.

Scott
ad6yt


On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 6:13 AM Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Scott:
>
> The TEXT DEC level {Text Decode} is set too sensitive and/or the RF Gain
> is too high.   I use #3 for the TEXT DEC sensitivity on most bands,
> depending on noise.   And the RF Gain is reduced such that the CWT bar
> only flashes on a clean signal.  Getting * and E's is an indication the
> sensitivity is too high and/or the RF Gain is too high.   Also correct
> tuning is necessary.  With CWT active you should see the flashing bar in
> the center.  If to the left or right the tuning is not correct based on
> the sidetone pitch you have selected.   I get tuning close and then use
> the SPOT function to correctly zero beat the signal.   This is when CWT
> is ON.
>
> Copying DK9PY on 14.039 with 100% correct print this morning. He is
> sending by keyboard which makes for good copy.  Many hand sent CW
> signals are lacking in rhythm, timing and  spacing for 100% correct
> copy.   However, you should be able to copy some portion of the messages.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> On 10/8/2019 6:26 PM, Tox wrote:
> > I still have not found the magic to get my kx3 to reliably yield
> > anything but a stream of E and *. :(
> >
> > Scott
> > AD6YT
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 12:17 PM Ignacy <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> I feel that KX3 has a much better CW decoder than K3.
> >> Ignacy, NO9E
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

Edward R Cole
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Barry,

I had CW skimmer installed on my old winXP computer but was not
impressed with CW detection of weak CW (same for the K3).  But I was
using K3 line-out audio so maybe I will try it with my new i5 64-bit
machine and feed IF via LP-Pan and UADC4 (brand new A/D converter
which supplies 96KHz dual IQ for diversity Rx).

The UADC4 is the latest toy for the digital-eme crowd (but should
find use outside of eme for general digital op).  Its not cheap but
has totally flat audio bandwidth which is supposed to improve IMD
performance for urban users.

I am just building my new i5 win-10pro so haven't used it on the air,
yet.  I will add a webpage  for the UADC4, once operational.

73, Ed - KL7UW

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Dave,
      Your last comment is correct. However, CW Skimmer comes into its own
when you feed it IF I&Q data. You can see what is happening across the
band or a portion of it and still read the signal narrow band. You do
this by clicking on the signal you want to pursue and and listen in
narrow band. By clicking on the wanted signal, the radio is tuned to it.
This does require a little set up and setting offsets, but it is really
worth it. A little interesting point: in a little less than rigorous
testing, I found that that Skimmer seems to work a bit better using I&Q
data rather than just the receiver audio. But, that was not a rigorous
test and someone who is really interested can do the follow up.

73,
Barry
K3NDM


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: K3 CW Text Decoding

Barry-2
Ed,
     It seems to make little to no difference what operating system you
use. CW Skimmer will never out perform your ears for weak signals; I
don't think it was ever designed for weak signals. But, for most every
other CW signal that is reasonably sent, it does seem to work well. And,
to me it seems to work better when using I&Q data vice just the audio
out of the radio. This just may be the sound card I was using at the
time. I just haven't done the in depth testing; I do admit it would some
interesting testing.

     I'm presently using LP-Pan and a Steinberg UR22 running at 196KHz
sampling rate with my receiver usually set to around 250-300 Hz while
contesting. I do suspect that the A/D will make a difference and my
external sound card should be superior to my internal one. What I do
know is that Skimmer uses a statistical approach vice just sampling, and
in a contest when I'm tired, it does better than I do. Do keep us up
with whatever you find.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Edward R Cole" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: 10/9/2019 2:43:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW Text Decoding

>Barry,
>
>I had CW skimmer installed on my old winXP computer but was not impressed with CW detection of weak CW (same for the K3).  But I was using K3 line-out audio so maybe I will try it with my new i5 64-bit machine and feed IF via LP-Pan and UADC4 (brand new A/D converter which supplies 96KHz dual IQ for diversity Rx).
>
>The UADC4 is the latest toy for the digital-eme crowd (but should find use outside of eme for general digital op).  Its not cheap but has totally flat audio bandwidth which is supposed to improve IMD performance for urban users.
>
>I am just building my new i5 win-10pro so haven't used it on the air, yet.  I will add a webpage  for the UADC4, once operational.
>
>73, Ed - KL7UW
>
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>
>Dave,
>      Your last comment is correct. However, CW Skimmer comes into its own
>when you feed it IF I&Q data. You can see what is happening across the
>band or a portion of it and still read the signal narrow band. You do
>this by clicking on the signal you want to pursue and and listen in
>narrow band. By clicking on the wanted signal, the radio is tuned to it.
>This does require a little set up and setting offsets, but it is really
>worth it. A little interesting point: in a little less than rigorous
>testing, I found that that Skimmer seems to work a bit better using I&Q
>data rather than just the receiver audio. But, that was not a rigorous
>test and someone who is really interested can do the follow up.
>
>73,
>Barry
>K3NDM
>
>
>73, Ed - KL7UW
>http://www.kl7uw.com
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