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Gary Gregory-2
Seasons greetings one and all.

Has anyone used/using the Koss SB45 headsets on their K3?

I have the CM-500 and I am on my second set but again the padding is
starting to deteriorate so before they look too ratty, figured I would get
a backup and as the CM500 are not available in VK but the Koss SB45 are, I
would appreciate any comments/advice the list may offer.

Just to let you all know, I love my Yamaha cm500 BUT, shipping cost from
the US is really quite ridiculous these days and the AUD has fallen off a
cliff and the parachute failed to open...:-)

The Koss SB45 are $69.00 AUD, free shipping. I like free...:-)

TIA

73
Gary

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Re: K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

Gary Gregory-2
Guys, Guys, Guys,

I HAVE the CM500 from Yamaha currently, however, I need to get a
backup/standby/replacement headset as my CM500 is starting to fall apart
(heavy usage) and they are not sold in VK. It's a Yamaha thing.

Shipping from the US to VK is $101 USD, that's a bit rich for my blood :-)

The SB45 is the Koss Electret mic headset and IS available here in VK.

My question is, has anyone using the Koss SB45 able to advise me of their
experience with the SB45. ie are you satisfied?

Thanks folks, really appreciate the knowledge base and assistance.

73

Gary

On 29 December 2015 at 08:26, Gary Gregory <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Seasons greetings one and all.
>
> Has anyone used/using the Koss SB45 headsets on their K3?
>
> I have the CM-500 and I am on my second set but again the padding is
> starting to deteriorate so before they look too ratty, figured I would get
> a backup and as the CM500 are not available in VK but the Koss SB45 are, I
> would appreciate any comments/advice the list may offer.
>
> Just to let you all know, I love my Yamaha cm500 BUT, shipping cost from
> the US is really quite ridiculous these days and the AUD has fallen off a
> cliff and the parachute failed to open...:-)
>
> The Koss SB45 are $69.00 AUD, free shipping. I like free...:-)
>
> TIA
>
> 73
> Gary
>
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Re: K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

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It's quite a coincidence that you asked about the Koss SB-45, because I just got one for Christmas!  Mine is the one with 3.5mm connectors, not the USB version.  I also have a CM-500.

I was going to post a review here after wearing the SB-45 all next weekend in the RTTY Roundup, but here are my first impressions.

The microphone quality is fine.  The SB-45 needed about 3 dB more boost in TX EQ #4 to sound like the CM-500.  The mic is an electret.  Do not confuse this unit with the SB-40, which has a dynamic mic, and apparently doesn’t sound so good.

The audio out of the headphones is also fine, just as good and loud and distortion-free as the CM-500, at least for communications use.  I haven't tried either headset on music.

I wore them for 1.5 hours on a long-winded net this morning, and they were totally comfortable over that time period.  I do wear eyeglasses.  People on the net said the audio sounded just like the CM-500.  I'll give a better long-term comfort report after the RTTY Roundup.

The cord is nice and long, and the mic and headphone wires can be separated easily to go to different places, after cutting a little rubber thingie that keeps them together.  My mic goes to the back of a computer on the floor, and my headphones go to an SO2R box on the table.

The SB45 is around $25 on Amazon, compared to $55 for the CM-500.

I think this headset is going to be a keeper, but I’ll give a long term comfort report next week.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ





-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Gregory
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 3:26 PM
To: Elecraft List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

Seasons greetings one and all.

Has anyone used/using the Koss SB45 headsets on their K3?

I have the CM-500 and I am on my second set but again the padding is
starting to deteriorate so before they look too ratty, figured I would get
a backup and as the CM500 are not available in VK but the Koss SB45 are, I
would appreciate any comments/advice the list may offer.

Just to let you all know, I love my Yamaha cm500 BUT, shipping cost from
the US is really quite ridiculous these days and the AUD has fallen off a
cliff and the parachute failed to open...:-)

The Koss SB45 are $69.00 AUD, free shipping. I like free...:-)

TIA

73
Gary

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Re: K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

AB2E Darrell
I'll share with the group a very positive experience with an excellent set of headphones I've not seen reviewed for radio before - Sennheiser HD280 Pro, online most places for $99. OK, it's not the cheapest set out there like the two mentioned here, Koss SB-45 and Yamaha CM-500 (I too have the CM-500, the response is nice and crisp but the Sennheiser is superior and more comfortable than the Yamaha), but it is extremely high quality from a famous EU maker. I actually bought the Sennheiser for another use in the shack (digitizing old reel to reel audio tapes and I needed a studio reference source). These phones are terrific, with 32db of isolation. The over-the-ear cushions are very deep - a little over an inch - and I operated a whole contest weekend with them at the CQWW CW at VE3RZ's M2 with my K3 and SPE Expert 1.3K-FA. In SS CW, I copied many west coast CW, even qrp with these phones. Very comfortable on the ears, and very quiet - no outside noise. These are rated as recording studio quality phones. The cable is 10ft long, and the weight is only .49lbs. It comes with a 1/8in plug but includes a 1/4 in adapter. Here's a link with the details for anyone interested
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HD280Pro?adpos=1t1&creative=83049424441&device=c&matchtype=b&network=g&gclid=CKjIwJXe_8kCFdQYHwodrokJWQ 
I have no financial interest in anyone selling them, just love the product.
73 Darrell AB2E


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Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 6:39 PM
To: Reflector Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

It's quite a coincidence that you asked about the Koss SB-45, because I just got one for Christmas!  Mine is the one with 3.5mm connectors, not the USB version.  I also have a CM-500.

I was going to post a review here after wearing the SB-45 all next weekend in the RTTY Roundup, but here are my first impressions.

The microphone quality is fine.  The SB-45 needed about 3 dB more boost in TX EQ #4 to sound like the CM-500.  The mic is an electret.  Do not confuse this unit with the SB-40, which has a dynamic mic, and apparently doesn’t sound so good.

The audio out of the headphones is also fine, just as good and loud and distortion-free as the CM-500, at least for communications use.  I haven't tried either headset on music.

I wore them for 1.5 hours on a long-winded net this morning, and they were totally comfortable over that time period.  I do wear eyeglasses.  People on the net said the audio sounded just like the CM-500.  I'll give a better long-term comfort report after the RTTY Roundup.

The cord is nice and long, and the mic and headphone wires can be separated easily to go to different places, after cutting a little rubber thingie that keeps them together.  My mic goes to the back of a computer on the floor, and my headphones go to an SO2R box on the table.

The SB45 is around $25 on Amazon, compared to $55 for the CM-500.

I think this headset is going to be a keeper, but I’ll give a long term comfort report next week.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ





-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Gregory
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 3:26 PM
To: Elecraft List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

Seasons greetings one and all.

Has anyone used/using the Koss SB45 headsets on their K3?

I have the CM-500 and I am on my second set but again the padding is
starting to deteriorate so before they look too ratty, figured I would get
a backup and as the CM500 are not available in VK but the Koss SB45 are, I
would appreciate any comments/advice the list may offer.

Just to let you all know, I love my Yamaha cm500 BUT, shipping cost from
the US is really quite ridiculous these days and the AUD has fallen off a
cliff and the parachute failed to open...:-)

The Koss SB45 are $69.00 AUD, free shipping. I like free...:-)

TIA

73
Gary

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Re: K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

N1EU
Sorry, I would qualify the recommendation for the Sennheiser HD280
based on many years experience with those headphones.  It's a matter
of personal fit perhaps, but I find the HD280 uncomfortable for
long-term contesting use.  For casual use for shorter periods of time,
I would definitely give them a thumbs up if you need an isolating type
headphone, although I prefer the higher priced Beyer DT770M.  If you
don't need the isolation, I prefer the more comfortable and better
sounding circumaural open-back Sennheisers.

73,
Barry N1EU

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 12:02 AM, AB2E Darrell <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'll share with the group a very positive experience with an excellent set of headphones I've not seen reviewed for radio before - Sennheiser HD280 Pro, online most places for $99. OK, it's not the cheapest set out there like the two mentioned here, Koss SB-45 and Yamaha CM-500 (I too have the CM-500, the response is nice and crisp but the Sennheiser is superior and more comfortable than the Yamaha), but it is extremely high quality from a famous EU maker. I actually bought the Sennheiser for another use in the shack (digitizing old reel to reel audio tapes and I needed a studio reference source). These phones are terrific, with 32db of isolation. The over-the-ear cushions are very deep - a little over an inch - and I operated a whole contest weekend with them at the CQWW CW at VE3RZ's M2 with my K3 and SPE Expert 1.3K-FA. In SS CW, I copied many west coast CW, even qrp with these phones. Very comfortable on the ears, and very quiet - no outside noise. These are rated as recording studio quality phones. The cable is 10ft long, and the weight is only .49lbs. It comes with a 1/8in plug but includes a 1/4 in adapter. Here's a link with the details for anyone interested
> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HD280Pro?adpos=1t1&creative=83049424441&device=c&matchtype=b&network=g&gclid=CKjIwJXe_8kCFdQYHwodrokJWQ
> I have no financial interest in anyone selling them, just love the product.
> 73 Darrell AB2E
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Elecraft <[hidden email]> on behalf of Dave Hachadorian <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 6:39 PM
> To: Reflector Elecraft
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets
>
> It's quite a coincidence that you asked about the Koss SB-45, because I just got one for Christmas!  Mine is the one with 3.5mm connectors, not the USB version.  I also have a CM-500.
>
> I was going to post a review here after wearing the SB-45 all next weekend in the RTTY Roundup, but here are my first impressions.
>
> The microphone quality is fine.  The SB-45 needed about 3 dB more boost in TX EQ #4 to sound like the CM-500.  The mic is an electret.  Do not confuse this unit with the SB-40, which has a dynamic mic, and apparently doesn’t sound so good.
>
> The audio out of the headphones is also fine, just as good and loud and distortion-free as the CM-500, at least for communications use.  I haven't tried either headset on music.
>
> I wore them for 1.5 hours on a long-winded net this morning, and they were totally comfortable over that time period.  I do wear eyeglasses.  People on the net said the audio sounded just like the CM-500.  I'll give a better long-term comfort report after the RTTY Roundup.
>
> The cord is nice and long, and the mic and headphone wires can be separated easily to go to different places, after cutting a little rubber thingie that keeps them together.  My mic goes to the back of a computer on the floor, and my headphones go to an SO2R box on the table.
>
> The SB45 is around $25 on Amazon, compared to $55 for the CM-500.
>
> I think this headset is going to be a keeper, but I’ll give a long term comfort report next week.
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Gregory
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 3:26 PM
> To: Elecraft List
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets
>
> Seasons greetings one and all.
>
> Has anyone used/using the Koss SB45 headsets on their K3?
>
> I have the CM-500 and I am on my second set but again the padding is
> starting to deteriorate so before they look too ratty, figured I would get
> a backup and as the CM500 are not available in VK but the Koss SB45 are, I
> would appreciate any comments/advice the list may offer.
>
> Just to let you all know, I love my Yamaha cm500 BUT, shipping cost from
> the US is really quite ridiculous these days and the AUD has fallen off a
> cliff and the parachute failed to open...:-)
>
> The Koss SB45 are $69.00 AUD, free shipping. I like free...:-)
>
> TIA
>
> 73
> Gary
>
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Sennheiser HD280 Headphones

Jim Brown-10
On Mon,12/28/2015 4:13 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
> Sorry, I would qualify the recommendation for the Sennheiser HD280
> based on many years experience with those headphones.

One big plus for the HD280s is that you can buy replacement cables for
them. I've not seen or worn them, so have no opinion on sound or comfort.

Good to hear about the Koss SB45. The CM500 has been getting pretty
pricy. I'll look forward to hearing from K6LL after RTTY RU.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

gm3sek
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Agreed, the SB-45 is excellent. The electret mic seems to be the same as the one used in the Koss CS-100, which has proved to work very well indeed with the K3/S and a number of other rigs. Once the EQ, Compressor and Noise Gate have been set up correctly, the same mic also suits a wide range of voices and attracts favourable comments for both ragchewing and contesting.

Beyond that, it's merely a personal choice between styles of headphones. I prefer the closed-cup style of the SB-45 while my wife prefers the lightweight on-ear style of the CS-100; but otherwise they are interchangeable.

Definitely recommended.


73 from Ian GM3SEK

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Hachadorian
Sent: 28 December 2015 23:40
To: Reflector Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

It's quite a coincidence that you asked about the Koss SB-45, because I just got one for Christmas!  Mine is the one with 3.5mm connectors, not the USB version.  I also have a CM-500.

I was going to post a review here after wearing the SB-45 all next weekend in the RTTY Roundup, but here are my first impressions.

The microphone quality is fine.  The SB-45 needed about 3 dB more boost in TX EQ #4 to sound like the CM-500.  The mic is an electret.  Do not confuse this unit with the SB-40, which has a dynamic mic, and apparently doesn’t sound so good.

The audio out of the headphones is also fine, just as good and loud and distortion-free as the CM-500, at least for communications use.  I haven't tried either headset on music.

I wore them for 1.5 hours on a long-winded net this morning, and they were totally comfortable over that time period.  I do wear eyeglasses.  People on the net said the audio sounded just like the CM-500.  I'll give a better long-term comfort report after the RTTY Roundup.

The cord is nice and long, and the mic and headphone wires can be separated easily to go to different places, after cutting a little rubber thingie that keeps them together.  My mic goes to the back of a computer on the floor, and my headphones go to an SO2R box on the table.

The SB45 is around $25 on Amazon, compared to $55 for the CM-500.

I think this headset is going to be a keeper, but I’ll give a long term comfort report next week.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ





-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Gregory
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 3:26 PM
To: Elecraft List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

Seasons greetings one and all.

Has anyone used/using the Koss SB45 headsets on their K3?

I have the CM-500 and I am on my second set but again the padding is starting to deteriorate so before they look too ratty, figured I would get a backup and as the CM500 are not available in VK but the Koss SB45 are, I would appreciate any comments/advice the list may offer.

Just to let you all know, I love my Yamaha cm500 BUT, shipping cost from the US is really quite ridiculous these days and the AUD has fallen off a cliff and the parachute failed to open...:-)

The Koss SB45 are $69.00 AUD, free shipping. I like free...:-)

TIA

73
Gary

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Re: K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

N1EU
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Dave, can you comment on how the isolation compares between the CM500
and the SB-45?  Does the SB-45 provide more isolation?

Thanks & 73,
Barry N1EU

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Dave Hachadorian <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's quite a coincidence that you asked about the Koss SB-45, because I just got one for Christmas!  Mine is the one with 3.5mm connectors, not the USB version.  I also have a CM-500.
>
> I was going to post a review here after wearing the SB-45 all next weekend in the RTTY Roundup, but here are my first impressions.
>
> The microphone quality is fine.  The SB-45 needed about 3 dB more boost in TX EQ #4 to sound like the CM-500.  The mic is an electret.  Do not confuse this unit with the SB-40, which has a dynamic mic, and apparently doesn’t sound so good.
>
> The audio out of the headphones is also fine, just as good and loud and distortion-free as the CM-500, at least for communications use.  I haven't tried either headset on music.
>
> I wore them for 1.5 hours on a long-winded net this morning, and they were totally comfortable over that time period.  I do wear eyeglasses.  People on the net said the audio sounded just like the CM-500.  I'll give a better long-term comfort report after the RTTY Roundup.
>
> The cord is nice and long, and the mic and headphone wires can be separated easily to go to different places, after cutting a little rubber thingie that keeps them together.  My mic goes to the back of a computer on the floor, and my headphones go to an SO2R box on the table.
>
> The SB45 is around $25 on Amazon, compared to $55 for the CM-500.
>
> I think this headset is going to be a keeper, but I’ll give a long term comfort report next week.
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Gregory
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 3:26 PM
> To: Elecraft List
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets
>
> Seasons greetings one and all.
>
> Has anyone used/using the Koss SB45 headsets on their K3?
>
> I have the CM-500 and I am on my second set but again the padding is
> starting to deteriorate so before they look too ratty, figured I would get
> a backup and as the CM500 are not available in VK but the Koss SB45 are, I
> would appreciate any comments/advice the list may offer.
>
> Just to let you all know, I love my Yamaha cm500 BUT, shipping cost from
> the US is really quite ridiculous these days and the AUD has fallen off a
> cliff and the parachute failed to open...:-)
>
> The Koss SB45 are $69.00 AUD, free shipping. I like free...:-)
>
> TIA
>
> 73
> Gary
>
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Re: K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

Dave Hachadorian-2
I just turned on my AL-1500 Amplifier and checked sound
isolation.  The SB-45 and CM-500 are about the same in sound
isolation.  Neither one is particularly good.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ



-----Original Message-----
From: Barry N1EU
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:52 AM
To: Dave Hachadorian
Cc: Reflector Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets

Dave, can you comment on how the isolation compares between the
CM500
and the SB-45?  Does the SB-45 provide more isolation?

Thanks & 73,
Barry N1EU

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Dave Hachadorian
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's quite a coincidence that you asked about the Koss SB-45,
> because I just got one for Christmas!  Mine is the one with
> 3.5mm connectors, not the USB version.  I also have a CM-500.
>
> I was going to post a review here after wearing the SB-45 all
> next weekend in the RTTY Roundup, but here are my first
> impressions.
>
> The microphone quality is fine.  The SB-45 needed about 3 dB
> more boost in TX EQ #4 to sound like the CM-500.  The mic is an
> electret.  Do not confuse this unit with the SB-40, which has a
> dynamic mic, and apparently doesn’t sound so good.
>
> The audio out of the headphones is also fine, just as good and
> loud and distortion-free as the CM-500, at least for
> communications use.  I haven't tried either headset on music.
>
> I wore them for 1.5 hours on a long-winded net this morning,
> and they were totally comfortable over that time period.  I do
> wear eyeglasses.  People on the net said the audio sounded just
> like the CM-500.  I'll give a better long-term comfort report
> after the RTTY Roundup.
>
> The cord is nice and long, and the mic and headphone wires can
> be separated easily to go to different places, after cutting a
> little rubber thingie that keeps them together.  My mic goes to
> the back of a computer on the floor, and my headphones go to an
> SO2R box on the table.
>
> The SB45 is around $25 on Amazon, compared to $55 for the
> CM-500.
>
> I think this headset is going to be a keeper, but I’ll give a
> long term comfort report next week.
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Gregory
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 3:26 PM
> To: Elecraft List
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 comments on Koss SB45 headsets
>
> Seasons greetings one and all.
>
> Has anyone used/using the Koss SB45 headsets on their K3?
>
> I have the CM-500 and I am on my second set but again the
> padding is
> starting to deteriorate so before they look too ratty, figured
> I would get
> a backup and as the CM500 are not available in VK but the Koss
> SB45 are, I
> would appreciate any comments/advice the list may offer.
>
> Just to let you all know, I love my Yamaha cm500 BUT, shipping
> cost from
> the US is really quite ridiculous these days and the AUD has
> fallen off a
> cliff and the parachute failed to open...:-)
>
> The Koss SB45 are $69.00 AUD, free shipping. I like free...:-)
>
> TIA
>
> 73
> Gary
>
> --
>
>
>
> *Gary - VK1ZZ, K3NHLSkype: Gary.VK1ZZhttp://www.qsl.net/vk1zz
> <http://www.qsl.net/vk1zz>Motorhome Portable*
> *Miss Behavin'*
>
>
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