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Grant Youngman-2
The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.

For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for the first time ever.  Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam cushion support for the inner carton, etc.   Because I insured it for a high value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS Customer Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.  Don’t know if I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire drill, but that wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around here.

Got to the UPS Center at the airport  and was told that I had to UNPACK ALL of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it wasn’t explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in February).   UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything.  Nothing worse than having to cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove you’re not just another uni-bomber.  I bit my lips and was (mostly) friendly about it.  Worse than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical detection wipes and X-ray machines that TSA has.   So it’s a bigger than  average hassle.

Word to the wise — leave your  cartons untaped, take your tape gun with you, and close/tape the containers yourself.  (Maybe I’m the only person that didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)

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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
I just took mine to the authorized Fed-X shipping store and let them deal with it.  No hassles. Less expensive than UPS and faster service.  

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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.
>
> For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for the first time ever.  Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam cushion support for the inner carton, etc.   Because I insured it for a high value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS Customer Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.  Don’t know if I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire drill, but that wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around here.
>
> Got to the UPS Center at the airport  and was told that I had to UNPACK ALL of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it wasn’t explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in February).   UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything.  Nothing worse than having to cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove you’re not just another uni-bomber.  I bit my lips and was (mostly) friendly about it.  Worse than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical detection wipes and X-ray machines that TSA has.   So it’s a bigger than  average hassle.
>
> Word to the wise — leave your  cartons untaped, take your tape gun with you, and close/tape the containers yourself.  (Maybe I’m the only person that didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)
>
> Grant NQ5T
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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

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Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value items with them.  I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about $4000.00.  They had to insure the packing was sufficient.  I’ve avoided them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl

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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:04 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I just took mine to the authorized Fed-X shipping store and let them deal with it.  No hassles. Less expensive than UPS and faster service.  
>
> Bob, K4TAX
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.
>>
>> For several good reasons, I just sent my K3 to Elecraft for service for the first time ever.  Insured, double boxed, expensive Uline 3” plank foam cushion support for the inner carton, etc.   Because I insured it for a high value, I was required by UPS to take the carton to the local UPS Customer Service Center, not the UPS store, etc. to obtain a signature.  Don’t know if I’d scheduled a pickup that it would have been the same fire drill, but that wasn’t an option for me because of UPS schedules around here.
>>
>> Got to the UPS Center at the airport  and was told that I had to UNPACK ALL of the cartons so they could see what was inside and determine that it wasn’t explosives (apparently there was an incident at FedEx back in February).   UPS did a sloppy job of retaping everything.  Nothing worse than having to cut open carefully packed and sealed containers to prove you’re not just another uni-bomber.  I bit my lips and was (mostly) friendly about it.  Worse than TSA … because they don’t have the chemical detection wipes and X-ray machines that TSA has.   So it’s a bigger than  average hassle.
>>
>> Word to the wise — leave your  cartons untaped, take your tape gun with you, and close/tape the containers yourself.  (Maybe I’m the only person that didn’t know this was a current UPS policy?)
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Grant Youngman-2
I don’t know what the other guys do.  But this has apparently been a UPS policy since February for packages  delivered to the Service Center.  Didn’t know about it of course, and don’t think there was any kind of warning on the website.  Maybe just missed the announcement.   I seem to recall the last time I shipped something insured for near maximum value, that the UPS Store could take it and sign for it, but that doesn’t seem to be the case any longer.

I’m not deriding UPS, just be aware if you ship an item (like a K3) with high-value insurance by UPS,  and have to take it to a Service Center, expect them to ask you (you have to do yourself) to open or unpack the item so they can inspect it and make sure it isn’t ticking :-)

Grant NQ5T
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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Carl Jón Denbow <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value items with them.  I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about $4000.00.  They had to insure the packing was sufficient.  I’ve avoided them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl
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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Peter W2IRT
I ship *everything* by the US Postal Service, and if the day ever comes that I need to send my K3s or KPA-1500 back for service you can bet it'll be using the post office, with original Elecraft shipping boxes and a premium shipping method with full insurance. I ship merchandise commercially and I've found their insurance far easier to claim on the 2 instances in 27 years that I needed to do so than the first (and only) time I ever tried to do this with UPS on a used/dead laptop. And they refused to pay. FedEx I wouldn't trust to pick up a piece of litter on the ground, let alone a $6,000 amp.


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I don’t know what the other guys do.  But this has apparently been a UPS policy since February for packages  delivered to the Service Center.  Didn’t know about it of course, and don’t think there was any kind of warning on the website.  Maybe just missed the announcement.   I seem to recall the last time I shipped something insured for near maximum value, that the UPS Store could take it and sign for it, but that doesn’t seem to be the case any longer.

I’m not deriding UPS, just be aware if you ship an item (like a K3) with high-value insurance by UPS,  and have to take it to a Service Center, expect them to ask you (you have to do yourself) to open or unpack the item so they can inspect it and make sure it isn’t ticking :-)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Carl Jón Denbow <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value items with them.  I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about $4000.00.  They had to insure the packing was sufficient.  I’ve avoided them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl
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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

k6dgw
Interesting thread.  Back when we had lots of troops in Iraq, my wife
and I adopted some and sent them packages. ["Pay it Forward" ... my
combat team and I got many in SE Asia from strangers].  They had to go
USPS Priority, every one made it.  OTOH, my employer had a contract with
FedX.  Everything went FedX.  I don't remember ever having a problem. 
Much less experience with UPS so I don't really know except that when
something we buy comes UPS and the email warning says it will require a
signature, it's almost always just left on the porch.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 9/25/2018 1:17 PM, Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) wrote:
> I ship *everything* by the US Postal Service, and if the day ever comes that I need to send my K3s or KPA-1500 back for service you can bet it'll be using the post office, with original Elecraft shipping boxes and a premium shipping method with full insurance. I ship merchandise commercially and I've found their insurance far easier to claim on the 2 instances in 27 years that I needed to do so than the first (and only) time I ever tried to do this with UPS on a used/dead laptop. And they refused to pay. FedEx I wouldn't trust to pick up a piece of litter on the ground, let alone a $6,000 amp.
>
>
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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Don Wilhelm
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Grant and all,

I use both UPS and USPS for shipping.

With UPS, if you go on-line and fill out the information and print the
shipping label, you can give it to any UPS driver.  If the value is
$1000 or more, the driver will have to sign your receipt.
Less than $1000, you can drop it off at any shipping center.
Yes, the UPS store may want to wrap it for you (and charge for that
service), but I have never had anyone ask me to do that.
So print your own shipping labels and avoid the hassle - if the declared
value is $1000 or above, hand it to a UPS driver, or expect to take it
to a UPS distribution center (not a UPS store).

With USPS, I have insured items for most any amount up to the maximum of
$5000 with no questions other than those normally asked about hazardous
contents, etc.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/25/2018 3:52 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
> I don’t know what the other guys do.  But this has apparently been a UPS policy since February for packages  delivered to the Service Center.  Didn’t know about it of course, and don’t think there was any kind of warning on the website.  Maybe just missed the announcement.   I seem to recall the last time I shipped something insured for near maximum value, that the UPS Store could take it and sign for it, but that doesn’t seem to be the case any longer.
>
> I’m not deriding UPS, just be aware if you ship an item (like a K3) with high-value insurance by UPS,  and have to take it to a Service Center, expect them to ask you (you have to do yourself) to open or unpack the item so they can inspect it and make sure it isn’t ticking :-)
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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
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Lets end this thread at this time in the interest of improving list SNR for our
other readers.

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On 9/25/2018 1:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Grant and all,
>
> I use both UPS and USPS for shipping.

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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Grant Youngman-2
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I do, too., usually.   Except this time.  UPS — a little under  $100, maximum insurance, ground.  USPS — almost $170 (Priority).  UPS 3-day was around $225.  The differences would have cut way too far into the IPA  budget item.  You have to prioritize somewhere :-)

Grant NQ5T
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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I ship *everything* by the US Postal Service, and if the day ever comes that I need to send my K3s or KPA-1500 back for service you can bet it'll be using the post office, with original Elecraft shipping boxes and a premium shipping method with full insurance. I ship merchandise commercially and I've found their insurance far easier to claim on the 2 instances in 27 years that I needed to do so than the first (and only) time I ever tried to do this with UPS on a used/dead laptop. And they refused to pay. FedEx I wouldn't trust to pick up a piece of litter on the ground, let alone a $6,000 amp.
>
>
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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

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> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400
> From: Grant Youngman<[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector<[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS
>
> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.

I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500
insurance.  I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service
at the normal rates.  They said they use a company that contracts with
UPS for shipping.  The company that provides the UPS service to the
hardware store requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly
due to some fraud cases in the past.  Because they know me well they
took my word that I double boxed it and packed it well, I didn't have to
unpack it.  I had shipped many things with them in the past with no
problems.

For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO
box.  It's a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO
box holders from any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc.  They will also
sign for some packages requiring signature if you have a signature on
file.  This solves my problem of packages left on my doorstep for people
to potentially steal.  This also solves the problem of people/businesses
that will not ship to a PO box.

This is how I address packages to be mailed to me.

My Name
34 Main Street  #(my PO box number)
East Haddam, CT 06423

A really nice feature of the post office.  Look at:

<https://www.usps.com/manage/po-boxes.htm>

73, Joe, K1ike


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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Bill K9YEQ
Joe, that is very good info for us with PO Boxes and want greater security.  

73,
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On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
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> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400
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> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS
>
> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.

I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500 insurance.  I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service at the normal rates.  They said they use a company that contracts with UPS for shipping.  The company that provides the UPS service to the hardware store requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly due to some fraud cases in the past.  Because they know me well they took my word that I double boxed it and packed it well, I didn't have to unpack it.  I had shipped many things with them in the past with no problems.

For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO box.  It's a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO box holders from any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc.  They will also sign for some packages requiring signature if you have a signature on file.  This solves my problem of packages left on my doorstep for people to potentially steal.  This also solves the problem of people/businesses that will not ship to a PO box.

This is how I address packages to be mailed to me.

My Name
34 Main Street  #(my PO box number)
East Haddam, CT 06423

A really nice feature of the post office.  Look at:

<https://www.usps.com/manage/po-boxes.htm>

73, Joe, K1ike


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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

K9MA
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I learned an expensive lesson when I shipped my K3 back for service:
Never ship from a UPS "Store", unless you prepay online. The store
charged me about double the online price, with some excuse about using a
different insurance company. You can, however, prepay online and just
drop it off at a nearby store.

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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Barry
One semi-related warning:
Avoid DHL.

I ordered a piece of furniture from Italy, which included a glass-top table.
It arrived in a wooden crate, which looked perfect from the outside, but the
glass was totally shattered inside.  They mist have dropped it on its edge
from a good height, or dropped something heavy on top of it.

Currently going through the insurance claim process, and the number of
repetitive phone calls and emails has been mind-boggling.  A very poorly
managed company.

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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Dan Mouer
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Just my opinion, but I can't get USPS to reliably deliver my mail on a
regular basis. No way am I trusting them with a high value package.
I hate and dread it when I order something and it starts out UPS or FedEx
and ends up "smart posting" through USPS the last mile.

The few times I've tried to file a complaint (via phone or face to face)
all I got was a run around and a carrier lying to my face.

YMMV.

Dan - N3XJN


On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 4:19 PM Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <[hidden email]>
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> I ship *everything* by the US Postal Service, and if the day ever comes
> that I need to send my K3s or KPA-1500 back for service you can bet it'll
> be using the post office, with original Elecraft shipping boxes and a
> premium shipping method with full insurance. I ship merchandise
> commercially and I've found their insurance far easier to claim on the 2
> instances in 27 years that I needed to do so than the first (and only) time
> I ever tried to do this with UPS on a used/dead laptop. And they refused to
> pay. FedEx I wouldn't trust to pick up a piece of litter on the ground, let
> alone a $6,000 amp.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Regards,
> Peter Dougherty, W2IRT
> DXCC Card Checker/CQ-WAZ Checkpoint
>
> www.facebook.com/W2IRT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Grant Youngman
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 3:53 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS
>
> I don’t know what the other guys do.  But this has apparently been a UPS
> policy since February for packages  delivered to the Service Center.
> Didn’t know about it of course, and don’t think there was any kind of
> warning on the website.  Maybe just missed the announcement.   I seem to
> recall the last time I shipped something insured for near maximum value,
> that the UPS Store could take it and sign for it, but that doesn’t seem to
> be the case any longer.
>
> I’m not deriding UPS, just be aware if you ship an item (like a K3) with
> high-value insurance by UPS,  and have to take it to a Service Center,
> expect them to ask you (you have to do yourself) to open or unpack the item
> so they can inspect it and make sure it isn’t ticking :-)
>
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
>
> > On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Carl Jón Denbow <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Never had a problem like that at UPS, and I’ve shipped many high value
> items with them.  I did have a problem like that, but not as severe, at
> FedEx once. They opened the box because I said the value was about
> $4000.00.  They had to insure the packing was sufficient.  I’ve avoided
> them for high-value items ever since. 73 de Carl
> >
>
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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Bob-270
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Well I'll confess to being in the USPS supporter camp.  I've had great service
from them.   My KPA1500 even came Priority Mail.

I use the addressing scheme below too.

I have a POB and another great free PO service is Informed delivery.  Every
morning I get an email with pictures of mail for the day.  From it I can make a
decision if I want to or need to go to the PO that day.  Here:

https://informeddelivery.usps.com/box/pages/intro/start.action

Not a well known PO service.

73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR


On 9/25/2018 8:48 PM, JOE wrote:

> On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400
>> From: Grant Youngman<[hidden email]>
>> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector<[hidden email]>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS
>>
>> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead and
>> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about shipping.
>
> I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500
> insurance.  I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service at the
> normal rates.  They said they use a company that contracts with UPS for
> shipping.  The company that provides the UPS service to the hardware store
> requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly due to some fraud cases
> in the past.  Because they know me well they took my word that I double boxed it
> and packed it well, I didn't have to unpack it.  I had shipped many things with
> them in the past with no problems.
>
> For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO box.  It's
> a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO box holders from
> any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc.  They will also sign for some packages
> requiring signature if you have a signature on file.  This solves my problem of
> packages left on my doorstep for people to potentially steal.  This also solves
> the problem of people/businesses that will not ship to a PO box.
>
> This is how I address packages to be mailed to me.
>
> My Name
> 34 Main Street  #(my PO box number)
> East Haddam, CT 06423
>
> A really nice feature of the post office.  Look at:
>
> <https://www.usps.com/manage/po-boxes.htm>
>
> 73, Joe, K1ike
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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Gwen Patton
My KXPA100 order hit on a day when it was raining fairly heavily. The UPS
driver clearly thought we wouldn't be home for some reason -- perhaps too
cynical? I don't know -- so he didn't bother to carry it the 14 lb box to
the house. Maybe he didn't want to have to carry it back to the van in the
rain? An interesting speculation, except for one small detail.

I was home. So was my partner. We were sitting 6 feet from the door, and if
the driver had even set foot on the porch, we would have noticed him
because we were sitting by a window onto the porch. Instead, he brought a
small Amazon package to the porch, to which he affixed the "sorry, we
missed you" tag, and tossed them onto the porch and ran back to his van. In
earlier times, they simply would have brought the package back the next
day, but not these days. He took the package to a pickup spot, a UPS store
about 5 miles from my house, and I had to pick it up the next day, in
person, with my ID so I could sign for it.

The sheer laziness of this event stunned me. He just didn't seem to want to
carry the box to the door in the rain, and was willing to inconvenience the
recipient of an expensive package just to avoid a couple minutes' work. I
don't have this trouble with FedEx, though I sometimes have problems with
Amazon drivers who claim not only that they delivered my package, but put
it directly into my hands, when I didn't even receive it until 2 days
later. They simply lie to avoid doing their jobs. It's the only thing I can
think of to explain it.

It doesn't do any good to complain. I raised the roof at UPS, and it had
zero effect. The woman on the phone told me she'd have the package brought
back to my door. Instead, it went to the pickup spot and I had to get my
disabled butt to their store to pick it up. Very frustrating!

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 3:14 PM Bob <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Well I'll confess to being in the USPS supporter camp.  I've had great
> service
> from them.   My KPA1500 even came Priority Mail.
>
> I use the addressing scheme below too.
>
> I have a POB and another great free PO service is Informed delivery.
> Every
> morning I get an email with pictures of mail for the day.  From it I can
> make a
> decision if I want to or need to go to the PO that day.  Here:
>
> https://informeddelivery.usps.com/box/pages/intro/start.action
>
> Not a well known PO service.
>
> 73,
> Bob
> K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR
>
>
> On 9/25/2018 8:48 PM, JOE wrote:
> > On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400
> >> From: Grant Youngman<[hidden email]>
> >> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector<[hidden email]>
> >> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS
> >>
> >> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead
> and
> >> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about
> shipping.
> >
> > I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500
> > insurance.  I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service
> at the
> > normal rates.  They said they use a company that contracts with UPS for
> > shipping.  The company that provides the UPS service to the hardware
> store
> > requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly due to some fraud
> cases
> > in the past.  Because they know me well they took my word that I double
> boxed it
> > and packed it well, I didn't have to unpack it.  I had shipped many
> things with
> > them in the past with no problems.
> >
> > For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO
> box.  It's
> > a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO box
> holders from
> > any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc.  They will also sign for some
> packages
> > requiring signature if you have a signature on file.  This solves my
> problem of
> > packages left on my doorstep for people to potentially steal.  This also
> solves
> > the problem of people/businesses that will not ship to a PO box.
> >
> > This is how I address packages to be mailed to me.
> >
> > My Name
> > 34 Main Street  #(my PO box number)
> > East Haddam, CT 06423
> >
> > A really nice feature of the post office.  Look at:
> >
> > <https://www.usps.com/manage/po-boxes.htm>
> >
> > 73, Joe, K1ike
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Re: Shipping high value items by UPS

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
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Folks, this OT thread was closed yesterday.
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On 9/26/2018 12:26 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:

> My KXPA100 order hit on a day when it was raining fairly heavily. The UPS
> driver clearly thought we wouldn't be home for some reason -- perhaps too
> cynical? I don't know -- so he didn't bother to carry it the 14 lb box to
> the house. Maybe he didn't want to have to carry it back to the van in the
> rain? An interesting speculation, except for one small detail.
>
> I was home. So was my partner. We were sitting 6 feet from the door, and if
> the driver had even set foot on the porch, we would have noticed him
> because we were sitting by a window onto the porch. Instead, he brought a
> small Amazon package to the porch, to which he affixed the "sorry, we
> missed you" tag, and tossed them onto the porch and ran back to his van. In
> earlier times, they simply would have brought the package back the next
> day, but not these days. He took the package to a pickup spot, a UPS store
> about 5 miles from my house, and I had to pick it up the next day, in
> person, with my ID so I could sign for it.
>
> The sheer laziness of this event stunned me. He just didn't seem to want to
> carry the box to the door in the rain, and was willing to inconvenience the
> recipient of an expensive package just to avoid a couple minutes' work. I
> don't have this trouble with FedEx, though I sometimes have problems with
> Amazon drivers who claim not only that they delivered my package, but put
> it directly into my hands, when I didn't even receive it until 2 days
> later. They simply lie to avoid doing their jobs. It's the only thing I can
> think of to explain it.
>
> It doesn't do any good to complain. I raised the roof at UPS, and it had
> zero effect. The woman on the phone told me she'd have the package brought
> back to my door. Instead, it went to the pickup spot and I had to get my
> disabled butt to their store to pick it up. Very frustrating!
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 3:14 PM Bob <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Well I'll confess to being in the USPS supporter camp.  I've had great
>> service
>> from them.   My KPA1500 even came Priority Mail.
>>
>> I use the addressing scheme below too.
>>
>> I have a POB and another great free PO service is Informed delivery.
>> Every
>> morning I get an email with pictures of mail for the day.  From it I can
>> make a
>> decision if I want to or need to go to the PO that day.  Here:
>>
>> https://informeddelivery.usps.com/box/pages/intro/start.action
>>
>> Not a well known PO service.
>>
>> 73,
>> Bob
>> K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR
>>
>>
>> On 9/25/2018 8:48 PM, JOE wrote:
>>> On 9/25/2018 8:15 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>>> Message: 6
>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:36:59 -0400
>>>> From: Grant Youngman<[hidden email]>
>>>> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector<[hidden email]>
>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping high value items by UPS
>>>>
>>>> The thread started by the gentleman who thought his KX2 might be dead
>> and
>>>> needed to go to Elecraft motivated me to make this comment about
>> shipping.
>>> I shipped my K3 back to Elecraft earlier this year via UPS and $2,500
>>> insurance.  I use a local hardware store in my town that has UPS service
>> at the
>>> normal rates.  They said they use a company that contracts with UPS for
>>> shipping.  The company that provides the UPS service to the hardware
>> store
>>> requires inspection of high value packages, reportedly due to some fraud
>> cases
>>> in the past.  Because they know me well they took my word that I double
>> boxed it
>>> and packed it well, I didn't have to unpack it.  I had shipped many
>> things with
>>> them in the past with no problems.
>>>
>>> For the return address, I use my local post office where I have a PO
>> box.  It's
>>> a little known fact that the USPS will accept packages for PO box
>> holders from
>>> any private carrier, UPS, FedEx, etc.  They will also sign for some
>> packages
>>> requiring signature if you have a signature on file.  This solves my
>> problem of
>>> packages left on my doorstep for people to potentially steal.  This also
>> solves
>>> the problem of people/businesses that will not ship to a PO box.
>>>
>>> This is how I address packages to be mailed to me.
>>>
>>> My Name
>>> 34 Main Street  #(my PO box number)
>>> East Haddam, CT 06423
>>>
>>> A really nice feature of the post office.  Look at:
>>>
>>> <https://www.usps.com/manage/po-boxes.htm>
>>>
>>> 73, Joe, K1ike
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