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Locherbob
I see that the TS990 has been reviewed by Rob Sherwood at:

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Interesting reading!

Cheers/73

Bob W9KNI

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Re: TS-990

N0AZZ
Interesting we now can see where all the money went......into the knobs 8>).

I bet some wish they would have waited, a fully loaded K3 is a lot less
money and look at the performance.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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Subject: [Elecraft] TS-990

I see that the TS990 has been reviewed by Rob Sherwood at:

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Interesting reading!

Cheers/73

Bob W9KNI

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Re: TS-990

Keith Heimbold
I was admiring one at the HRO recently. The rig is huge. Definitely a modern boat anchor. Would be tough to bring on a DXpedition. It sure is big and confusing looking. The touch screen Panadapter was pretty fun to play with though. I liked that feature.

Keith
AK6ZZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Jun 3, 2013, at 4:20 PM, "Fred Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Interesting we now can see where all the money went......into the knobs 8>).
>
> I bet some wish they would have waited, a fully loaded K3 is a lot less
> money and look at the performance.
>
>
> 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
> K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
> P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
>
>
>
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> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob Locher
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:54 PM
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> Subject: [Elecraft] TS-990
>
> I see that the TS990 has been reviewed by Rob Sherwood at:
>
> http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
>
> Interesting reading!
>
> Cheers/73
>
> Bob W9KNI
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RES: TS-990

py5eg
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I will take a good look
73
Oms


 
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Assunto: [Elecraft] TS-990

I see that the TS990 has been reviewed by Rob Sherwood at:

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Interesting reading!

Cheers/73

Bob W9KNI

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Re: TS-990

Phil Hystad-3
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I saw a TS-990 at the SeaPac hamfest this last Saturday.  It is an absolutely huge beast of a radio.  I think the largest modern rig I have ever seen and maybe larger than any amateur transceiver ever built (maybe).  Looking at the better performing K3 in size and simplicity compared to the beast TS-990, the K3 is truly an elegant radio.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Jun 3, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Fred Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Interesting we now can see where all the money went......into the knobs 8>).
>
> I bet some wish they would have waited, a fully loaded K3 is a lot less
> money and look at the performance.
>
>
> 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
> K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
> P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob Locher
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:54 PM
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> Subject: [Elecraft] TS-990
>
> I see that the TS990 has been reviewed by Rob Sherwood at:
>
> http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
>
> Interesting reading!
>
> Cheers/73
>
> Bob W9KNI
>
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Re: RES: TS-990

Bill Clarke
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I wonder what it can do that a K3/P3 can't do? That said, I'd sure hate
to pay the freight to ship it back for service.
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Re: RES: TS-990

Fred Smith
The best way would be by rail then via ship to China/Japan?

I had wondered for some time why there were no advanced test numbers on this
radio like most everything else. Japan are where you see the first ones
nothing at all there now we see the reason why.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ



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I wonder what it can do that a K3/P3 can't do? That said, I'd sure hate to
pay the freight to ship it back for service.
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Re: RES: TS-990

Bob K6UJ
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You need to rent a forklift so you can put it on the shipping truck   :-)  :-)

Bob
K6UJ



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> I wonder what it can do that a K3/P3 can't do? That said, I'd sure hate to pay the freight to ship it back for service.
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Re: RES: TS-990

Cookie
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I certainly resemble that remark.  I am working on getting my strength back.  The next objective is getting to where I can open a jar of pickles without going to the garage for a pipe wrench.
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart


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Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RES:  TS-990
 


But, I am getting old and my amplifier gains a few pounds each year. I can hardly move it these days - figure what it would be with the 990.

Bill W2BLC



On 6/4/2013 12:35 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrote:

It can deplete your Bank Account, enrich the Japanese, stay on your desk in a stout wind and make you a better power lifter.


>Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
>K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
>
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:15 AM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RES: TS-990
>
>
>I wonder what it can do that a K3/P3 can't do? That said,
              I'd sure hate to pay the freight to ship it back for
              service.
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Re: RES: TS-990

tnnyswy
Anyone remembers the TS 950, then the 950 SD and finally, the TS 950 SDX?

Could it be a repeat of the 950 series? Or, is it that the days of the Legendary Kenwood TX and RX audio
is something of the past?
Food for thought.

(((( 73 )))) Milverton.





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>To: Bill <[hidden email]>; "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:23 PM
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>
>
>I certainly resemble that remark.  I am working on getting my strength back.  The next objective is getting to where I can open a jar of pickles without going to the garage for a pipe wrench.

>Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
>K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Bill <[hidden email]>
>To: WILLIS COOKE <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RES:  TS-990
>
>
>
>But, I am getting old and my amplifier gains a few pounds each year. I can hardly move it these days - figure what it would be with the 990.
>
>Bill W2BLC
>
>
>
>On 6/4/2013 12:35 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrote:
>
>It can deplete your Bank Account, enrich the Japanese, stay on your desk in a stout wind and make you a better power lifter.
>> 
>>Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
>>K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
>>
>>
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>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RES: TS-990
>>
>>
>>I wonder what it can do that a K3/P3 can't do? That said,
>              I'd sure hate to pay the freight to ship it back for
>              service.
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Re: RES: TS-990

Scott Manthe-2
It is supposed to be a continuation of the famed 900 series of rigs.
However, it seems that while the audio might be wonderful, the RX specs
don't seem to be up to par with the other top of the line modern rigs.

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 6/4/13 3:08 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Anyone remembers the TS 950, then the 950 SD and finally, the TS 950 SDX?
>
> Could it be a repeat of the 950 series? Or, is it that the days of the Legendary Kenwood TX and RX audio
> is something of the past?
> Food for thought.
>
> (((( 73 )))) Milverton.
>
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Re: RES: TS-990

Mark Bayern
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> I had wondered for some time why there were no advanced test numbers on this

It is on the Sherwood receiver site. Took me a moment to find it.
Hint, it is not near the top of the pile.
<http://www.sherweng.com/table.html>

Mark  AD5SS


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Fred Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> The best way would be by rail then via ship to China/Japan?
>
> I had wondered for some time why there were no advanced test numbers on this
> radio like most everything else. Japan are where you see the first ones
> nothing at all there now we see the reason why.
>
> 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
>
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Re: RES: TS-990

Bill W
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Elecraft philosophy, form follows function.
Competitors philosophy, flash equals cash.
73
Bill - W0BBI
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Re: TS-990

Barry Simpson
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I am not sure why happy K3 owners want to keep trying to ridicule the TS990.

I am a happy K3 owner and have been for over four years. I am also a happy
owner of a TS590, and TS2000.

Now I am a happy owner of a TS990.

Despite the critical comments regarding its size and the Rob Sherwood
numbers, it is a magnificent piece of equipment with certainly more and/or
more convenient facilities than the K3.

In practice, there is no material difference between being able to receive
signals on the TS990, TS590 and K3. I bought it because I like Kenwood as
well as Elecraft and I have had great past experience with previous Kenwood
rigs including the TS930.

The visual appearance and ergonomics appealed to me as well as the
functions and facilities and I have not been disappointed.

So there you are guys - it's horses for courses. I have four rigs and will
be keeping and using them all. So please give some thought before making
critical and sarcastic comments about competitors' equipment that you have
not used. I have not seen any similar type of comments on Kenwood
reflectors regarding Elecraft equipment.

I also have a KPA500 and KAT500 and previously built a K2.

73

Barry Simpson  VK2BH


On 4 June 2013 14:40, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I saw a TS-990 at the SeaPac hamfest this last Saturday.  It is an
> absolutely huge beast of a radio.  I think the largest modern rig I have
> ever seen and maybe larger than any amateur transceiver ever built (maybe).
>  Looking at the better performing K3 in size and simplicity compared to the
> beast TS-990, the K3 is truly an elegant radio.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Fred Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Interesting we now can see where all the money went......into the knobs
> 8>).
> >
> > I bet some wish they would have waited, a fully loaded K3 is a lot less
> > money and look at the performance.
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > Fred/N0AZZ
> > K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
> > P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
> >
> >
> >
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> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob Locher
> > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:54 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] TS-990
> >
> > I see that the TS990 has been reviewed by Rob Sherwood at:
> >
> > http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
> >
> > Interesting reading!
> >
> > Cheers/73
> >
> > Bob W9KNI
> >
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Fwd: TS-990

Barry Simpson
And I can't even get my own callsign correct !!!!

73 again

Barry Simpson   VK2BJ

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From: Barry Simpson <[hidden email]>
Date: 5 June 2013 06:57
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-990
To: Phil Hystad <[hidden email]>
Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>


I am not sure why happy K3 owners want to keep trying to ridicule the TS990.

I am a happy K3 owner and have been for over four years. I am also a happy
owner of a TS590, and TS2000.

Now I am a happy owner of a TS990.

Despite the critical comments regarding its size and the Rob Sherwood
numbers, it is a magnificent piece of equipment with certainly more and/or
more convenient facilities than the K3.

In practice, there is no material difference between being able to receive
signals on the TS990, TS590 and K3. I bought it because I like Kenwood as
well as Elecraft and I have had great past experience with previous Kenwood
rigs including the TS930.

The visual appearance and ergonomics appealed to me as well as the
functions and facilities and I have not been disappointed.

So there you are guys - it's horses for courses. I have four rigs and will
be keeping and using them all. So please give some thought before making
critical and sarcastic comments about competitors' equipment that you have
not used. I have not seen any similar type of comments on Kenwood
reflectors regarding Elecraft equipment.

I also have a KPA500 and KAT500 and previously built a K2.

73

Barry Simpson  VK2BH


On 4 June 2013 14:40, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I saw a TS-990 at the SeaPac hamfest this last Saturday.  It is an
> absolutely huge beast of a radio.  I think the largest modern rig I have
> ever seen and maybe larger than any amateur transceiver ever built (maybe).
>  Looking at the better performing K3 in size and simplicity compared to the
> beast TS-990, the K3 is truly an elegant radio.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Fred Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Interesting we now can see where all the money went......into the knobs
> 8>).
> >
> > I bet some wish they would have waited, a fully loaded K3 is a lot less
> > money and look at the performance.
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > Fred/N0AZZ
> > K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
> > P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob Locher
> > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:54 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] TS-990
> >
> > I see that the TS990 has been reviewed by Rob Sherwood at:
> >
> > http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
> >
> > Interesting reading!
> >
> > Cheers/73
> >
> > Bob W9KNI
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Re: Fwd: TS-990

tnnyswy
>>> And I can't even get my own callsign correct !!!! <<<

And! You're going to expect us to believe anything that you've just said.     < grin>

((((73)))) Milverton.





>________________________________
> From: Barry Simpson <[hidden email]>
>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:59 AM
>Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd:  TS-990
>
>
>And I can't even get my own callsign correct !!!!
>
>73 again
>
>Barry Simpson   VK2BJ
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Barry Simpson <[hidden email]>
>Date: 5 June 2013 06:57
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-990
>To: Phil Hystad <[hidden email]>
>Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>
>
>I am not sure why happy K3 owners want to keep trying to ridicule the TS990.
>
>I am a happy K3 owner and have been for over four years. I am also a happy
>owner of a TS590, and TS2000.
>
>Now I am a happy owner of a TS990.
>
>Despite the critical comments regarding its size and the Rob Sherwood
>numbers, it is a magnificent piece of equipment with certainly more and/or
>more convenient facilities than the K3.
>
>In practice, there is no material difference between being able to receive
>signals on the TS990, TS590 and K3. I bought it because I like Kenwood as
>well as Elecraft and I have had great past experience with previous Kenwood
>rigs including the TS930.
>
>The visual appearance and ergonomics appealed to me as well as the
>functions and facilities and I have not been disappointed.
>
>So there you are guys - it's horses for courses. I have four rigs and will
>be keeping and using them all. So please give some thought before making
>critical and sarcastic comments about competitors' equipment that you have
>not used. I have not seen any similar type of comments on Kenwood
>reflectors regarding Elecraft equipment.
>
>I also have a KPA500 and KAT500 and previously built a K2.
>
>73
>
>Barry Simpson  VK2BH
>
>
>On 4 June 2013 14:40, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I saw a TS-990 at the SeaPac hamfest this last Saturday.  It is an
>> absolutely huge beast of a radio.  I think the largest modern rig I have
>> ever seen and maybe larger than any amateur transceiver ever built (maybe).
>>  Looking at the better performing K3 in size and simplicity compared to the
>> beast TS-990, the K3 is truly an elegant radio.
>>
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>>
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Fred Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Interesting we now can see where all the money went......into the knobs
>> 8>).
>> >
>> > I bet some wish they would have waited, a fully loaded K3 is a lot less
>> > money and look at the performance.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Fred/N0AZZ
>> > K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
>> > P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [hidden email]
>> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob Locher
>> > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:54 PM
>> > To: [hidden email]
>> > Subject: [Elecraft] TS-990
>> >
>> > I see that the TS990 has been reviewed by Rob Sherwood at:
>> >
>> > http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
>> >
>> > Interesting reading!
>> >
>> > Cheers/73
>> >
>> > Bob W9KNI
>> >
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Re: RES: TS-990

Terry Schieler-2
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Back in the late 80's I ordered a TS-950 sight-unseen from a catalog.  It was to replace my trusty TS-180SAT.  When it arrived I thought they'd accidently sent me TWO 950's in the same box.  I had not paid any attention to the size and weight specs of the rig when I ordered it.  It was so huge, there was no room for anything on the front of the operating desk once the 950 was in place.  I boxed it up and sent it back.  I was stronger then but knew that I would (hopefully) be growing old and would need help moving that beast.

I recently looked at the specs of the 990 and knew it would be a back-breaker too.

Terry, W0FM



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:09 PM
To: WILLIS COOKE; Bill; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RES: TS-990

Anyone remembers the TS 950, then the 950 SD and finally, the TS 950 SDX?

Could it be a repeat of the 950 series? Or, is it that the days of the Legendary Kenwood TX and RX audio is something of the past?
Food for thought.

(((( 73 )))) Milverton.






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Re: TS-990

alorona
The weight of rigs from Japan has more to do with the choice of steel for the
chassis instead of aluminum, and certainly the size of the TS-990 is the right
size for many people. But another observation is that when you look at the
schematic diagrams of Japanese rigs they are unbelievably complicated. There
are easily ten times as many paths, components, connectors, and devices as the
typical American rig, making it extremely difficult to follow signal flow on
these enormously dense circuits. When I first obtained an Elecraft K2, I
couldn't believe how simple it was. The schematic looked pretty much like the
occasional homebrew transceiver you see in QST, and yet the specs were every bit
as good as Japanese rigs costing (and weighing) way more. I have always wondered
whether Japanese transceivers are way over-engineered-- and thus more expensive,
heavier, and larger-- than they have to be.

Al  W6LX
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Re: RES: TS-990

Eric J
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My old TS-930S was 40 lbs and dominated the top of an executive desk. I
recently weighed my K2/10 and K2/100, both heavily accessorized.
Together, they are a few ounces short of 10 lbs. Never again.

Eric
KE6US

On 6/5/2013 9:40 AM, Terry Schieler wrote:

> Back in the late 80's I ordered a TS-950 sight-unseen from a catalog.  It was to replace my trusty TS-180SAT.  When it arrived I thought they'd accidently sent me TWO 950's in the same box.  I had not paid any attention to the size and weight specs of the rig when I ordered it.  It was so huge, there was no room for anything on the front of the operating desk once the 950 was in place.  I boxed it up and sent it back.  I was stronger then but knew that I would (hopefully) be growing old and would need help moving that beast.
>
> I recently looked at the specs of the 990 and knew it would be a back-breaker too.
>
> Terry, W0FM
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:09 PM
> To: WILLIS COOKE; Bill; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RES: TS-990
>
> Anyone remembers the TS 950, then the 950 SD and finally, the TS 950 SDX?
>
> Could it be a repeat of the 950 series? Or, is it that the days of the Legendary Kenwood TX and RX audio is something of the past?
> Food for thought.
>
> (((( 73 )))) Milverton.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: TS-990

Rick Wheeler-2
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While this thread is getting a little long in the tooth, Al brings up some very interesting points. Yes, Kenwood, Icom, and Yaesu do make fine transceivers, but it does seem the Elecraft rigs perform as well and better in many cases with simpler schematics. Me, far from being an electronics guru, would like to have someone offer up an explanation as to if Elecraft rigs are indeed simpler generally and if so why they perform as well or better in many cases. Hurry though, I think this thread is due to be shut down soon!

Rick
K4LX
K2 #2005 


 


________________________________
 From: Al Lorona <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-990
 

The weight of rigs from Japan has more to do with the choice of steel for the
chassis instead of aluminum, and certainly the size of the TS-990 is the right
size for many people. But another observation is that when you look at the
schematic diagrams of Japanese rigs they are unbelievably complicated. There
are easily ten times as many paths, components, connectors, and devices as the
typical American rig, making it extremely difficult to follow signal flow on
these enormously dense circuits. When I first obtained an Elecraft K2, I
couldn't believe how simple it was. The schematic looked pretty much like the
occasional homebrew transceiver you see in QST, and yet the specs were every bit
as good as Japanese rigs costing (and weighing) way more. I have always wondered
whether Japanese transceivers are way over-engineered-- and thus more expensive,
heavier, and larger-- than they have to be.

Al  W6LX
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