new computers, the search for serial ports and the meaning of life...

[Jim Spears]

Another possibility is an "off lease" older PC from the likes of
TigerDirect.  There will be other sources, this is the place I recently
purchased a pair.  One is a Dell, other is a HP; both have "real" hardware
serial ports.  It is also possible to buy these with Windows 7 or even XP.
Both of my systems have a total of 4 expansion slots - 2 PCI express x 1, 1
PCI express x 16 and 1 PCI.  All are low profile hardware configuration.

 

Jim/N1NK

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[Tom Azlin W7SUA-2]

I've found "off lease" and refurbished older laptops quite good for
radio. A couple sellers on Amazon have worked for me. Including one with
a real serial port. But then I upgraded my K3 with the K3S components so
now use a USB port.

73, tom w7sua

On 8/10/2013 9:24 AM, Jim Spears wrote:

> Another possibility is an "off lease" older PC from the likes of
> TigerDirect.  There will be other sources, this is the place I recently
> purchased a pair.  One is a Dell, other is a HP; both have "real" hardware
> serial ports.  It is also possible to buy these with Windows 7 or even XP.
> Both of my systems have a total of 4 expansion slots - 2 PCI express x 1, 1
> PCI express x 16 and 1 PCI.  All are low profile hardware configuration.
>
>  
>
> Jim/N1NK

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[EricJ]

Computers with serial ports running Windows XP/7 are approaching boat
anchor status along with Drake receivers and EF Johnson transmitters.

Eric KE6US

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[Eric Garner]

We use USB/serial adapters from startech

https://www.newegg.com/startech-icusb234858i-usb-to-rs-232-422-485-serial/p/N82E16812399182


at work for our serial port needs. mostly because the ports enumerate in
the same order every time, which is a huge bonus. they have smaller,
cheaper versions as well as a more expensive version that tunnels serial
over ethernet. Having hardware serial ports be the limiting factor when
choosing a PC seems overly limiting to me.

Eric, KI7LTT

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> Computers with serial ports running Windows XP/7 are approaching boat
> anchor status along with Drake receivers and EF Johnson transmitters.
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> Eric KE6US
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[Bob McGraw - K4TAX]

I respectfully disagree on Drake receivers and EF Johnson transmitters
as boat anchors.   My finding is there no suitable place on either one
to which one can attach a length of rope, hence becoming an anchor
line.   Therefore, neither are considered to be a boat anchor.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 6/20/2019 1:17 PM, EricJ wrote:

> Computers with serial ports running Windows XP/7 are approaching boat
> anchor status along with Drake receivers and EF Johnson transmitters.
>
> Eric KE6US
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On 6/20/2019 11:17 AM, EricJ wrote:
> Computers with serial ports running Windows XP/7 are approaching boat
> anchor status

Not quite -- I paid extra for a couple of off-lease Win 7 machines so
that I wouldn't be subject to Win 10's forced automatic updates. I like
updates, but on MY schedule. The last thing I want is a forced update in
the middle of a contest.

73, Jim K9YC

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[Ken K6MR]

Windows 10 allows you to delay updates for up to 35 days.



Ken K6MR



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On 6/20/2019 11:17 AM, EricJ wrote:
> Computers with serial ports running Windows XP/7 are approaching boat
> anchor status

Not quite -- I paid extra for a couple of off-lease Win 7 machines so
that I wouldn't be subject to Win 10's forced automatic updates. I like
updates, but on MY schedule. The last thing I want is a forced update in
the middle of a contest.

73, Jim K9YC

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[rich hurd WC3T]

There's a way to get around that in a Win 10 machine; tell it you're on a
metered Internet connection.   It won't update until you tell it to.   It's
in a setting somewhere.

That said, I have a Dell Inspiron Mini that won't run much beyond Win XP
without severely bogging down.  It is a small form factor and perfect for
the field and for logging.   I carry it with me when I go afield and have
pretty much everything I need, absent the internet, which I'm actually
going afield to get away from.     If you have a little machine that you
can send to Coventry, you run no risk of compromise of the operating
system; as long as the software runs on it.  I have quick boots and get my
work done.

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 3:16 PM Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 6/20/2019 11:17 AM, EricJ wrote:
> > Computers with serial ports running Windows XP/7 are approaching boat
> > anchor status
>
> Not quite -- I paid extra for a couple of off-lease Win 7 machines so
> that I wouldn't be subject to Win 10's forced automatic updates. I like
> updates, but on MY schedule. The last thing I want is a forced update in
> the middle of a contest.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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