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what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board.....
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

wayne burdick
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...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise mod on the RF board :)

Wayne
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

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:-D

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...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display
bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise
mod on the RF board :)

Wayne
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> On Jan 10, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Jamie WW3S <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards
in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB
board.....
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Rich-4
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I kind of like

K3s (lower case S) is modified K3

K3S (upper case S) is the new radio

Rich

K3RWN

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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

ab4iqkf4cxo
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I also added the KIO3B modification to my K3 (2197) in addition to the
synthesizer, DVR and TXCO so it operates just like my K3S's.  The only
difference is on the Keypad 6 which says DUAL PB on the K3 and APF on the
K3S that I can see.

Ed.. AB4IQ

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...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display
bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise
mod on the RF board :)

Wayne
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> what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

wayne burdick
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Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model is "Stepson of K3"?

Back to my lab where I belong....

Wayne
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> On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Rich <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I kind of like
>
> K3s (lower case S) is modified K3
>
> K3S (upper case S) is the new radio
>
> Rich
>
> K3RWN
>
> On 1/10/2019 21:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
>> what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board.....
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Ed W0YK
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And the new rubber band on the knob.
73,Ed W0YK
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...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise mod on the RF board :)

Wayne
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Eric Norris-2
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I prefer neoK3S, like neoNoir, only brighter, depending on your LCD
backlight setting

73 Eric WD6DBM

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 7:17 PM Rich <[hidden email] wrote:

> I kind of like
>
> K3s (lower case S) is modified K3
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> K3S (upper case S) is the new radio
>
> Rich
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> K3RWN
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Lee Ormiston
Or, singing A Capella while in laboratory!

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:15 PM Eric Norris <[hidden email]>
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> I prefer neoK3S, like neoNoir, only brighter, depending on your LCD
> backlight setting
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> 73 Eric WD6DBM
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> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 7:17 PM Rich <[hidden email] wrote:
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> > I kind of like
> >
> > K3s (lower case S) is modified K3
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> > K3S (upper case S) is the new radio
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> > Rich
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> > K3RWN
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
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...and one more think, the ATU bypass relay if I am right ;)




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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
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Brilliant Rich, I like it.



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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Raymond Sills
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So..... let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it from a K3S.


73 de Ray
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...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise mod on the RF board :)

Wayne
N6KR


> On Jan 10, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Jamie WW3S <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board.....
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
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I'd say it is called and "updated K3".   The K3S is different and my
understanding is that a K3 can not be updated to be a K3S. All abet
similar, in the end, they are different radios.    For that fact alone,
the reason I purchased a K3S and not a K3

73

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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Doug Person-5
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K3+ as the TenTec folks had referred to the Omni 6 with upgrades.

Doug -- KJ0F

On 1/10/2019 8:23 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model is "Stepson of K3"?
>
> Back to my lab where I belong....
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Rich <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I kind of like
>>
>> K3s (lower case S) is modified K3
>>
>> K3S (upper case S) is the new radio
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> K3RWN
>>
>> On 1/10/2019 21:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
>>> what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board.....
>>> ______________________
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Clarification:

The Tentec Omni VI Plus is not the same as the Tentec Omni VI, opt 3. 
There is a difference, in model number and performance and features. 
Thus from my take, a K3 upgrade is just that, a K3 that has the
recommended factory upgrades installed.    And a K3S is a K3S that can
only come from the factory.    And in both cases, presumably a
difference in value for resale purposes.

73

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On 1/11/2019 8:08 AM, Doug Person wrote:
> K3+ as the TenTec folks had referred to the Omni 6 with upgrades.
>
> Doug -- KJ0F
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Charlie T, K3ICH
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It should be named "K3CharlieT".
(After ME !)
That way, when I get famous, your descendants can sell it as a valuable
collectable artifact for lots of money, or whatever is used at that time for
bartering.

73, Charlie k3ICH


If you think this is a tad absurd, you're absolutely correct.....just as
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So..... let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it
from a K3S.



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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

John K9UWA-2
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One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3.

I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft reflector or
other places where the radios are discussed.

I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the following
differences to the K3 radio. As well as the portions of the K3 that can not be
upgraded to equal the new K3S radio.

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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Don Wilhelm
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All this is fun and good, but if you are selling it, it needs to be
listed as a K3 SN xxxx with the specific upgrades enumerated - so the
buyer knows what he is buying.

I have run into this problem many, many times with the early K2s - they
are listed as being upgraded, only to find out (for instance) that only
the firmware has been changed while the A to B upgrades have not been
installed.
What upgraded means to one person does not equal the perception of
another person.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2019 9:08 AM, Doug Person wrote:

> K3+ as the TenTec folks had referred to the Omni 6 with upgrades.
>
> Doug -- KJ0F
>
> On 1/10/2019 8:23 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model
>> is "Stepson of K3"?
>>
>> Back to my lab where I belong....
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Rich <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I kind of like
>>>
>>> K3s (lower case S) is modified K3
>>>
>>> K3S (upper case S) is the new radio
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> K3RWN
>>>
>>> On 1/10/2019 21:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
>>>> what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer
>>>> boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is
>>>> the USB board.....
>>>> ______________________
>>
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Grant Youngman-2
Couldn’t agree more.  I’ll wager there is at least one early K3 out there with a new synthesizer board and none of the published K3 updates installed.  Sure .. it’s “upgraded”, but what is it?

The whole “I have a K3S and you have a mere K3” bit of puffery going around is just … well … puffery :-)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Jan 11, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> All this is fun and good, but if you are selling it, it needs to be listed as a K3 SN xxxx with the specific upgrades enumerated - so the buyer knows what he is buying.
>
> I have run into this problem many, many times with the early K2s - they are listed as being upgraded, only to find out (for instance) that only the firmware has been changed while the A to B upgrades have not been installed.
> What upgraded means to one person does not equal the perception of another person.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>

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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Michael P. Rioux
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Mike, W1USN

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> On Jan 11, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Charlie T <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It should be named "K3CharlieT".
> (After ME !)
> That way, when I get famous, your descendants can sell it as a valuable
> collectable artifact for lots of money, or whatever is used at that time for
> bartering.
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>
>
> If you think this is a tad absurd, you're absolutely correct.....just as
> this thread has gotten.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On
> Behalf Of Raymond Sills
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:15 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
>
> So..... let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it
> from a K3S.
>
>
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